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RE: [swinog] future of dls
by Michel Renfer 29 Jul '05

29 Jul '05

Hi Jean-Pierre In the actual situation without unbundling it's 'just' a question what swisscom would do. Actually i didn't have any information, if swisscom would support adsl2+ cheers, michel > -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of > Jean-Pierre Schwickerath > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:39 AM > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Subject: [swinog] future of dls > > Hello everyone, > > I just read that Netgear proposes a firmware upgrade for their routers > to support ADSL2+ and in Germany ISP are overbidding themselves with > always increasing bandwidths. > > Does anyone have reliable information about what swiss broadband ISPs > plan to offer in the next future? > > > Regards, > Jean-Pierre > > > -- > HILOTEC Engineering + Consulting GmbH > Energietechnik und Datensysteme > Tel: +41 34 402 74 00 - http://www.hilotec.com/ > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >

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smokeping hosts in der schweiz.
by Robert Depenbrock 28 Jul '05

28 Jul '05

Hallo! Was fuer hosts benutzt ihr um Latenzen innerhalb von der Schweiz zu messen? Also welche Hosts sind pingbar in welchen verschiedenen Netzen? Welche Hosts benutzt ihr um Latenzen zu messen? Gruss Robert Depenbrock -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- | Robert Depenbrock (RD-RIPE) | http://www.scanplus.de/| | ScanPlus GmbH Ulm (AS12399) | Tel +49 731 92013 134| | Koenigstr. 78 D 89077 Ulm | Fax +49 731 92013 290| ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: [swinog] future of dsl
by David Tschan 28 Jul '05

28 Jul '05

At the following link can some more infomations about the plans and timetables of Swisscom with VDSL be found. (sorry, only in german) http://www.tschan.ch/swinog/Triple_Play_Netzstruktur_und_Architektur.pdf Regards David --- |I doubt it would be VDSL - more likely VDSL2. Which gives them a very |limited footprint. Distances with VDSL2 are very limited. Indeed. There was a short talk 2 months ago by Swisscom, explaining their plan to deploy VDSL2, which actually implies moving the exchanges closer to the users, and their roadmap for coverage in the big cities. The presentation is available here: http://www.giti.ch/documents/Presentation_3PInfra.pdf

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Re: R: [swinog] future of dsl
by xaerni＠pop.ch 28 Jul '05

28 Jul '05

The different is with analog Telephone Line you pay every Minute, if you are in the Internet... This you can have better on control. But The traffic. I think is not very easy... I make now a test at home... I have installed a counter on my PC and I'm looking, how mach of traffic the computer makes, without me... You must look Antivirus make every month min. 5-10 mb traffic. Windows Updates.. horror... En fact the Limit is Fr. 59.-- for the traffic. I think the most costumer are paying the Limit (total 69.--). For 150/50 is this verry expensive... For ADSL i think is the best way a flatrate... But I write tomorrow mornig what kind of trafic my computer is making... without makeing sometings. Greeting Xaver At Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:51:06 +0200, you wrote: >I don't think it's stupid. With a 56k modem you don't have any MB = >included at all, and you pay for traffic. Yes, you also pay when you = >install Windows Updates, McAfee updates or whatever. But if I were a = >"non-techie", I'd still prefer ADSL 150/50 instead of a 56k modem - = >because it's faster! *duh* > >At the end, you pay almost the same per hour like with a 56k modem = >(maybe something less) and you're faster. Again, this product wasn't = >thought for technical people, but for dial-up users who would like to = >get rid of the old, slow, noisy modem (yes, you can turn off the = >speaker, I know :-)) and maybe allow the husband to place a phone call = >while the wife plays Swiss Lotto, without needing ISDN. Is this so = >difficult? /methings ADSL Light was a great idea by Swisscom. Why does = >everything need to do Swisscom-bashing as a principle? > >Regards >Manuel >=20 > >-----Messaggio originale----- >Da: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch = >[mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] Per conto di Alain Stucki >Inviato: venerd=EC, 22. luglio 2005 10:02 >A: swinog(a)swinog.ch >Oggetto: AW: [swinog] future of dsl > >That's exact my position. 20MB/month.. This is really stupid..=20 >20MB exhausted in a few days by reading your daily spam, some other = >mails with attached files and so on..=20 > >I think no one need ADSL with 20MB traffic limit, the good, old 56k = >modem is a much better solution for these "Gelegenheits-surfer" >No basic free, no traffic limit.. You pay exactly what you get.. > >Greetz >Alain > >_______________________________________________ >swinog mailing list >swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch >http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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Letter from WEKO - it took REKO 18 month to do nothing.
by Fredy Kuenzler 28 Jul '05

28 Jul '05

Yesterday we received a letter from WEKO, basically saying that REKO took 18 months to do nothing in the Swisscom FWS BBCS rebate case. So we start from scratch again, which is, IMHO, real big ... I wrote a blog entry about it (German). Please note that my personal opinion is mixed with the facts. http://www.blogg.ch/blogs/chisp.html F.

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FW: Cisco IOS Exploit Cover Up
by Michel Renfer 28 Jul '05

28 Jul '05

Cisco's response thus far: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/about/security/intelligence/MySDN_CiscoIOS.ht ml

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RE: [swinog] future of dls
by Gabriel Boissonnard 28 Jul '05

28 Jul '05

|I doubt it would be VDSL - more likely VDSL2. Which gives |them a very limited footprint. Distances with VDSL2 are very |limited. Indeed. There was a short talk 2 months ago by Swisscom, explaining their plan to deploy VDSL2, which actually implies moving the exchanges closer to the users, and their roadmap for coverage in the big cities. The presentation is available here: http://www.giti.ch/documents/Presentation_3PInfra.pdf Regards, Gabriel Boissonnard

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[Fwd: Cisco IOS Exploit Cover Up]
by Fredy Kuenzler 27 Jul '05

27 Jul '05

Another YAGR to come ... ?!? F. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Cisco IOS Exploit Cover Up Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:26:21 -0400 From: James Baldwin <jbaldwin(a)antinode.net> To: nanog(a)merit.edu For those who like to keep abreast of security issues, there are interesting developments happening at BlackHat with regards to Cisco IOS and its vulnerability to arbitrary code executions. I apologize for the article itself being brief and lean on technical details, but allow me to say that it does represent a real problem (as in practical and confirmed): http://blogs.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2005/07/mending_a_hole_.html

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RE: [swinog] future of dls
by Michel Renfer 27 Jul '05

27 Jul '05

> I know is that all the 'excessive' bandwidth available with VDSL will > only be used for HDTV streaming. So don't hold your breath for 20Mbit > Internet surfing. Ack! TV streams will have strict priority over internet traffic. So surfing at (very) highspeed and hdtv streaming won't be possible. cheers, michel

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AW: [swinog] *SPECIAL* SwiNOG-BE28 - BBQ/Beer Event 28 - 8th of August@ Oerlikerpark
by Bernet Nicole 27 Jul '05

27 Jul '05

You guys choose - apéro or dessert, whatever is wished! Cheers, -nicole -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftrag von Martin Ebnoether Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Juli 2005 12:03 An: swinog(a)swinog.ch Betreff: Re: [swinog] *SPECIAL* SwiNOG-BE28 - BBQ/Beer Event 28 - 8th of August@ Oerlikerpark Glogger Steven schrieb: [Grill, what people will bring] > this could be: > - beer Bier Paul oder Turbine. Audience, please choose which. > - some hot sauces (venty?) Yes, I'll bring them. Can you imagine me going to a barbie without any hot sauce? =:-) > - desserts I'll bake a chocolate cake with rum-raisins (and rum). > see pictures on http://gallery.glogger.ch/swinogbe16 Cool, not yet seen. *click* CU, Venty _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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