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Berne Beer-Event
by Nik Hug 15 Aug '05

15 Aug '05

Hello all, it's time to try BE^2-Event 1 (Berne-Beer-Event) why should our colleagues in Zurich always rise the national beer-consumption-ratio on their own? (last be-event was already Number 28 afaik) my proposal: Tramdepot (yes - as locals we can drink our beer not only twice a year there) Thursday 18. August - starting 1800 Attendes: folks involved with Networks, Servers etc.. -> please see www.swinog.ch if you are unsure. feel free to forward this email to non-swinog-members in berne! Greetings Nik

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Re: [swinog] Berne Beer-Event (Ferien)
by Jonas Stämpfli 15 Aug '05

15 Aug '05

Ferienhalber bin ich bis und mit 28.8. abwesend. Stellvertretung während meiner Abwesenheit ist Thorsten Summer (043 343 68 04) Mails werden nicht weitergeleitet!

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Campaign against data retention
by Felix Rauch 12 Aug '05

12 Aug '05

(Please forgive the non-technical mail, but mandatory data retention should be a highly relevant issue for most ISPs. While this is not exactly brand new, it hasn't shown up on the list so far:) "European Digital Rights" (EDRI) recently launched a petition against data retention, which you can sign to show your support (so far there are 22'500 signatures from all over europe). SIUG supports the campaign. Campaign website: http://www.dataretentionisnosolution.com/ More details are in this excerpt from the EDRI-gram newsletter - Number 3.15, 27 July 2005: [...] =========================================================== 2. EDRI launches petition against data retention =========================================================== European Digital Rights, together with the Dutch ISPs XS4ALL and Bit, launched an international petition today against mandatory data retention. The petition is aimed at the European Commission and the members of the European Parliament. EDRI argues that retention of telecommunication traffic data is an invasive tool that interferes with the private life of all 450 million people in the European Union. Secondly, the petition points out that data retention is illegal under Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights, because it is disproportionate. Thirdly, the petition explains that security gained from retention may be illusory, as traffic data may easily point to another user and finally, the means through which this policy is being pursued are illegitimate. In the next two months, EDRI hopes to collect an impressive amount of signatures from all over Europe, to convince Commission and Parliament that data retention is no solution against terrorism and crime. Supporters are kindly invited to help distribute information about this petition, by placing the banner on their sites or homepages and spread the news through mailinglists. The petition-initiative will be presented during the opening speech of the open-air hacker event What the Hack, Thursday 28 July. During and after the event, everybody is invited to contribute to the website by adding translations in many other languages and back-ground files. The petition script uses confirmed opt-in to verify every signature. This means everybody has to provide the organisers with a valid e-mail address to receive the confirmation. The e-mail address will not be used for any other purpose. Only the name and country of every signer will be published publicly on the website and presented to Commission and Parliament. The specific privacy policy for this campaign guarantees that personal data will only be used for this specific purpose and all personal data will be destroyed after presentation of the list. EDRI and ISP petition against data retention (available in English and French) http://www.dataretentionisnosolution.com [...] =========================================================== 11. About =========================================================== EDRI-gram is a biweekly newsletter about digital civil rights in Europe. Currently EDRI has 17 members from 11 European countries. European Digital Rights takes an active interest in developments in the EU accession countries and wants to share knowledge and awareness through the EDRI-grams. All contributions, suggestions for content or agenda-tips are most welcome. Except where otherwise noted, this newsletter is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 License. See the full text at http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/ Newsletter editor: Sjoera Nas <edrigram(a)edri.org> Information about EDRI and its members: http://www.edri.org/ -- Felix Rauch, http://www.nice.ch/~felix/ Member of Swiss Internet User Group (SIUG): http://www.siug.ch/ This article contains my personal view only! Use of my addresses for marketing purposes is hereby strictly prohibited according to swiss privacy laws.

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RE: [swinog] Techie-Party
by Sascha Kaufmann 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

Hi Ihsan Could you please use the following confirmation address, as it will be forwarded directly to the responsible person then. mailto:techie-party@ixeurope.com Regards, Sascha -----Original Message----- From: Ihsan Dogan [mailto:Ihsan.Dogan@Sun.COM] Sent: Mittwoch, 10. August 2005 16:37 To: swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] Techie-Party Hello Sascha, On Wed, 2005-08-10 at 16:11, Sascha Kaufmann wrote: > Please confirm latest until the 29th of september 2005 and send your > participation confirmation to: > techie-party(a)ixeurope.com Please put me on the guest-list. Thanks. Ihsan -- Sun Microsystems (Schweiz) AG Global Customer Services Javastrasse 2 / Hegnau CH-8604 Volketswil Phone +41 44 908 90 00 Fax +41 44 908 99 14 E-Mail ihsan.dogan(a)sun.com Web http://www.sun.com/ _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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RE: [swinog] Techie-Party
by Sascha Kaufmann 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

no probs! see you soon, Sascha -----Original Message----- From: Ihsan Dogan [mailto:Ihsan.Dogan@Sun.COM] Sent: Mittwoch, 10. August 2005 16:53 To: swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: RE: [swinog] Techie-Party On Wed, 2005-08-10 at 16:46, Sascha Kaufmann wrote: > Could you please use the following confirmation address, as > it will be forwarded directly to the responsible person then. > > mailto:techie-party@ixeurope.com I'm sorry, I forgot that. I realized it after I pressed the send button. Ihsan -- Sun Microsystems (Schweiz) AG Global Customer Services Javastrasse 2 / Hegnau CH-8604 Volketswil Phone +41 44 908 90 00 Fax +41 44 908 99 14 E-Mail ihsan.dogan(a)sun.com Web http://www.sun.com/ _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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Techie-Party
by Sascha Kaufmann 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

Hello All, Once again it's time to meet for the Techie-Party! The event will be held on Thursday the 13th of october 2005, right next to IXEurope location at BIG BEN PUB. The exact address is Hardstrasse 234 and the party starts at 6pm. The idea is to get together for some food and drinks, chat together and enjoy some good time. Now it's up to you to reserve this time and make sure you can come there. Please confirm latest until the 29th of september 2005 and send your participation confirmation to: <mailto:techie-party@ixeurope.com> techie-party(a)ixeurope.com If we forgot someone of your Technical colleagues, could you please inform them as well. LET'S HAVE FUN - and hope to see you all there. Your IXEurope Operations Team Sascha, Michel, Marco, Gordon & Daniel

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RE: [swinog] Auskunft Polizei
by Ladu, Daniele 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

Ciao Joschua Also ich / sunrise gibt die Daten an keine ausländische Behörden raus. Anhand von Emailadressen gibt es sowieso keine Auskunft, ausser wer diese registriert hat. Du hast aber recht - hätten die Behörden den IRC Log ausgewertet, hätten Sie Datum, Zeit und IP Adresse gehabt. Anhand dieser Daten kann man die CLI herausfinden, die diese IP Adresse an besagtem Tag bezogen hat. Bei schweizer Anfragen der Polizei (achtung nicht UVEK, sondern einfach Polizei ohne richterl. Beschluss): UVEK-DBA Dienst für Besondere Aufgaben Monbijoustrasse 49 3003 Bern Tel.: 004131 323 38 10 Fax: 004131 323 36 43 http://www.cybercrime.admin.ch/ Bei Anfragen aus dem Ausland: http://www.ofj.admin.ch/d/index.html http://www.ofj.admin.ch/themen/rechtshilfe/index-rh-d.html Gruss Daniele Ladu -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch]On Behalf Of Joschua Brunner Sent: Dienstag, 9. August 2005 12:44 To: swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] Auskunft Polizei Hi Sorry, this message is only in German. If you prefer english, yust answer in english. Ich erhielt kürzlich von Deutschen Polizisten ein Auskunftsbegehren (Per Mail übber die GL) über einen unseren Freemail user (Letze IP Adresse). Das vorgehen war äusserst unprofessionel welches mich stutzig machte. Es gieng um eine Suizidandrohung im IRC (Die betreiber des Servers machten Anzeige) Wo eine Person auch die E-Mail adresse angegeben hat. IMHO hätte die Polizei lediglich die IRC Logs verlangen müssen um die richtige Person sofort zu finden (Könnte ja sein, dass diese eine fremde addi angegeben hat). Statdessen verlnagten sie von uns (per Mail!) die Letzte IP des users. Welche sie nach 2 wöchigem hin und her von mir auf druck der GL erhalten haben. Wie handhabt Ihr das? was verlangt Ihr von den behörden um sich zu identifizieren? Gerade eben, hat die GL wieder nach einer IP verlangt. Vermutlich wieder auf verlangen von ausländischen behörden... Nur die IP rausgeben ist ein kleineres problem, da die ISP's die daten nicht so einfach rausrücken. Problemhafter wird's wenn sie die Mails wollen. Wie läuft das dan ap? THX Joschua _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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Auskunft Polizei
by Joschua Brunner 09 Aug '05

09 Aug '05

Hi Sorry, this message is only in German. If you prefer english, yust answer in english. Ich erhielt kürzlich von Deutschen Polizisten ein Auskunftsbegehren (Per Mail übber die GL) über einen unseren Freemail user (Letze IP Adresse). Das vorgehen war äusserst unprofessionel welches mich stutzig machte. Es gieng um eine Suizidandrohung im IRC (Die betreiber des Servers machten Anzeige) Wo eine Person auch die E-Mail adresse angegeben hat. IMHO hätte die Polizei lediglich die IRC Logs verlangen müssen um die richtige Person sofort zu finden (Könnte ja sein, dass diese eine fremde addi angegeben hat). Statdessen verlnagten sie von uns (per Mail!) die Letzte IP des users. Welche sie nach 2 wöchigem hin und her von mir auf druck der GL erhalten haben. Wie handhabt Ihr das? was verlangt Ihr von den behörden um sich zu identifizieren? Gerade eben, hat die GL wieder nach einer IP verlangt. Vermutlich wieder auf verlangen von ausländischen behörden... Nur die IP rausgeben ist ein kleineres problem, da die ISP's die daten nicht so einfach rausrücken. Problemhafter wird's wenn sie die Mails wollen. Wie läuft das dan ap? THX Joschua

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by filippo 09 Aug '05

09 Aug '05

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RE: [swinog] Auskunft Polizei
by Glogger Steven 09 Aug '05

09 Aug '05

moin, > Dann würde ich keine Auskunft geben. darfst du aus datenschutzgründen sowieso nicht. die müssten ein rechtshilfebegehren bei der schweiz stellen, und dann dürftest du via UVEK/richter/whatever nen offiziellen zettel kriegen, wo du deine daten eintragen darfst (resp. wo steht, was du zu tun hast). ansonsten musst du gar nix. -steven

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