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AW: [swinog] swisscom dsl down?
by Glogger Steven 15 Jul '05

15 Jul '05

fromt the press: ------------ © AP, 2005-07-15 10:25:00 Rund eine Million ADSL-Kunden für 30 Minuten ohne Internet Bern (AP) Der ADSL-Dienst der Swisscom ist am Freitagmorgen zwischen 09.10 Uhr und 09.40 Uhr ausgefallen. Betroffen waren rund eine Million Kunden der Swisscom sowie zahlreicher anderer Firmen, wie ein Swisscom-Sprecher eine Meldung von «Radio Zürisee» bestätigte. Ursache für die Internet-Störung sei ein Softwareproblem gewesen, das noch genauer untersucht werden müsse. ------------ well, did microsoft had the patch-day yesterday? *grin* -steven > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Glogger Steven > Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Juli 2005 09:43 > An: 'swinog(a)swinog.ch' > Betreff: AW: [swinog] swisscom dsl down? > > but the users are coming back now. > we see a lot of users back online... > > -steven > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftrag von Jérôme > > Tissières > > Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Juli 2005 09:42 > > An: swinog(a)swinog.ch > > Betreff: RE: [swinog] swisscom dsl down? > > > > I confirm, > > > > ADSL national outage ; > > > > ---snip--- > > [To:] ISP > > > > [Trouble Ticket Number:] > > > > [Outage ID - Message ID:] 3373 - 00 > > > > [From:] BBCS Support Team > > > > Network-Outage BBCS/ADSL > > > > [Region:] NA > > > > [Affected Locations:] National > > > > [Begin of fault:] [Date:] 15.07.2005 [Time:] 09:06 > > > > [End of fault:] [Date:] [Time:] > > > > [Area Code:] > > > > [Effect:] BBCS Access whole Switzerland > > > > [Number of ADSL services:] 970'000 > > > > [Work progress:] > > > > [Approximately expected repair time:] > > > > ---snap--- > > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > > De : swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > > > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] De la part de > > Thomas Schneider > > > Envoyé : vendredi, 15. juillet 2005 09:30 À : > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > > Objet : [swinog] swisscom dsl down? > > > > > > good morning > > > > > > can you confirm that swisscom dsl is down? > > > we have lost some customers in different areas. > > > > > > thanks > > > tom > > > _______________________________________________ > > > swinog mailing list > > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > >

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AW: [swinog] Swisscom blocks Skype over UMTS ?
by Glogger Steven 15 Jul '05

15 Jul '05

do they have something small-printed in their contracts that they *might* filter things out? otherwise i would call this an semi-illegal action... -steven > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftrag von Ihsan Dogan > Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Juli 2005 10:48 > An: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Betreff: Re: [swinog] Swisscom blocks Skype over UMTS ? > > Hello, > > On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 10:30, Umberto Annino wrote: > > > I've just read in 20Minuten, that Swisscom apparently is blocking > > Skype traffic over their UMTS network. They only want UMTS > to be used for "data" > > traffic, not for voice (yeah, so what exactly IS a > UDP-packet then ????). > > Other UMTS providers are doing the same. There was an article > on heise.de this (or perhaps last week) about that. > I think it's time that GSM and UMTS providers are thinking > about their prices. Especially here in Switzerland. > > > Ihsan... > > -- > Sun Microsystems (Schweiz) AG > Global Customer Services > Javastrasse 2 / Hegnau > CH-8604 Volketswil > Phone +41 44 908 90 00 > Fax +41 44 908 99 14 > E-Mail ihsan.dogan(a)sun.com > Web http://www.sun.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > >

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AW: [swinog] swisscom dsl down?
by Glogger Steven 15 Jul '05

15 Jul '05

but the users are coming back now. we see a lot of users back online... -steven > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftrag von Jérôme > Tissières > Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Juli 2005 09:42 > An: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Betreff: RE: [swinog] swisscom dsl down? > > I confirm, > > ADSL national outage ; > > ---snip--- > [To:] ISP > > [Trouble Ticket Number:] > > [Outage ID - Message ID:] 3373 - 00 > > [From:] BBCS Support Team > > Network-Outage BBCS/ADSL > > [Region:] NA > > [Affected Locations:] National > > [Begin of fault:] [Date:] 15.07.2005 [Time:] 09:06 > > [End of fault:] [Date:] [Time:] > > [Area Code:] > > [Effect:] BBCS Access whole Switzerland > > [Number of ADSL services:] 970'000 > > [Work progress:] > > [Approximately expected repair time:] > > ---snap--- > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De : swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] De la part de > Thomas Schneider > > Envoyé : vendredi, 15. juillet 2005 09:30 À : > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > Objet : [swinog] swisscom dsl down? > > > > good morning > > > > can you confirm that swisscom dsl is down? > > we have lost some customers in different areas. > > > > thanks > > tom > > _______________________________________________ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > >

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RE: [swinog] swisscom dsl down?
by Jérôme Tissières 15 Jul '05

15 Jul '05

I confirm, ADSL national outage ; ---snip--- [To:] ISP [Trouble Ticket Number:] [Outage ID - Message ID:] 3373 - 00 [From:] BBCS Support Team Network-Outage BBCS/ADSL [Region:] NA [Affected Locations:] National [Begin of fault:] [Date:] 15.07.2005 [Time:] 09:06 [End of fault:] [Date:] [Time:] [Area Code:] [Effect:] BBCS Access whole Switzerland [Number of ADSL services:] 970'000 [Work progress:] [Approximately expected repair time:] ---snap--- > -----Message d'origine----- > De : swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] De la part de Thomas Schneider > Envoyé : vendredi, 15. juillet 2005 09:30 > À : swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > Objet : [swinog] swisscom dsl down? > > good morning > > can you confirm that swisscom dsl is down? > we have lost some customers in different areas. > > thanks > tom > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >

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RE: [swinog] swisscom dsl down?
by Marco.Sudan＠colt.net 15 Jul '05

15 Jul '05

FYI Swisscom ADSL Outage whole Switzerland since 09:00 http://tools.cybernet.ch/status/ ;-) Cheers marco -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Ladu, Daniele Sent: Freitag, 15. Juli 2005 09:30 To: swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: RE: [swinog] swisscom dsl down? We too.... customers are calling :-( Sincerly Daniele Ladu -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch]On Behalf Of Thomas Schneider Sent: Freitag, 15. Juli 2005 09:30 To: swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] swisscom dsl down? good morning can you confirm that swisscom dsl is down? we have lost some customers in different areas. thanks tom _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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RE: [swinog] swisscom dsl down?
by Marc Loosli 15 Jul '05

15 Jul '05

Yes: > [To:] ISP > > [Trouble Ticket Number:] > > [Outage ID - Message ID:] 3373 - 00 > > [From:] BBCS Support Team > > Network-Outage BBCS/ADSL > > [Region:] NA > > [Affected Locations:] National > > [Begin of fault:] [Date:] 15.07.2005 [Time:] 09:06 > > [End of fault:] [Date:] [Time:] > > [Area Code:] > > [Effect:] BBCS Access whole Switzerland > > [Number of ADSL services:] 970'000 > > [Work progress:] > > [Approximately expected repair time:] > > [Point of contact:] bbcs.support(a)swisscom.com > > For questions please do not hesitate to contact us > > > -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Thomas Schneider > Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 9:30 AM > To: swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > Subject: [swinog] swisscom dsl down? > > good morning > > can you confirm that swisscom dsl is down? > we have lost some customers in different areas. > > thanks > tom > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >

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swisscom dsl down?
by Thomas Schneider 15 Jul '05

15 Jul '05

good morning can you confirm that swisscom dsl is down? we have lost some customers in different areas. thanks tom

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RE: [swinog] FW: Blocking request of a homepage
by Olivier Graf 14 Jul '05

14 Jul '05

You're right ! I didn't talk about this side of the problem. I just spoke about blocking web access from ISP customers to an external website. -----Message d'origine----- De : swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] De la part de Rene Luria Envoyé : jeudi, 14. juillet 2005 16:10 À : swinog(a)swinog.ch Objet : Re: [swinog] FW: Blocking request of a homepage On Thursday 14 July 2005 15.56, Olivier Graf wrote: > I don't understand the link between blocking a website and a SMTP > access... Nobody block a website because of spamming. If a client of yours abuse of one of the services you provide him, it can be legitimate to prevent him from using any of them. When the resources sold are web space and email, spaming may be a reason to block web access too, not only smtp. _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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RE: [swinog] FW: Blocking request of a homepage
by Olivier Graf 14 Jul '05

14 Jul '05

Hi there, I don't understand the link between blocking a website and a SMTP access... Nobody block a website because of spamming. Cheers Olivier -----Message d'origine----- De : swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] De la part de Ladu, Daniele Envoyé : jeudi, 14. juillet 2005 15:39 À : swinog(a)swinog.ch Objet : [swinog] FW: Blocking request of a homepage Perhaps this message didn't arrive to the list, i try it one more time.... -----Original Message----- From: Ladu, Daniele Sent: Donnerstag, 14. Juli 2005 08:50 To: 'swinog(a)swinog.ch' Subject: Blocking request of a homepage Importance: High Hello dear SWINOG members I have a friend, that has a Club Music related Newsletter with over 15000 Email Adresses with double opt in and out. On the 12. July a little ISP has sent a request to hostpoint, regarding my friend and his spaming activity. The ISP told Hostpoint, that www.housestation.ch was blocked by some ISPs. As i know, sunrise has never blocked the Homepage of housestation. I think that the complaint from the ISP is a "private hate" against my friend. Therefore i wanna ask, if you can tell me if you (ISP) are blocking this Homepage, and if yes, how can we find out what the reason of the blocking is. Also we have complained at Hostpoint regarding the forward of the complaint without having the related Mailheader of the Spammail sent by my friend. The other thing is, that the Spammail in question was sent out on May. But my friend has sent out the Newsletter trough hostpoint the first time on the beginning of june. Thanks you for your help and feedbacks. Sincerly, Daniele Ladu Senior Technical Support Operator Sunrise TDC Switzerland AG Abuse Team Thurgauerstrasse 60 8050 Zürich Tel. +41 1 300 53 61 Fax +41 58 777 97 07 Mail daniele.ladu(a)sunrise.net Mail abuse(a)sunrise.net Internet www.sunrise.ch *************************************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify it to the sender. Cet email ainsi que tous les fichiers qui lui sont attaches sont confidentiels et reserves a l'usage exclusif des personnes auxquelles ils sont adresses. Si vous avez recu cet email par erreur, veuillez avoir l'obligeance d'en informer son emetteur. Dieses email sowie alle damit verbundenen Dateien sind vertraulich und nur fuer diejenigen Personen bestimmt, an die es adressiert ist. Wenn Sie dieses email irrtuemlicherweise erhalten haben, bitten wir Sie, den Absender zu informieren. *************************************************************************************** _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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FW: Blocking request of a homepage
by Ladu, Daniele 14 Jul '05

14 Jul '05

Perhaps this message didn't arrive to the list, i try it one more time.... -----Original Message----- From: Ladu, Daniele Sent: Donnerstag, 14. Juli 2005 08:50 To: 'swinog(a)swinog.ch' Subject: Blocking request of a homepage Importance: High Hello dear SWINOG members I have a friend, that has a Club Music related Newsletter with over 15000 Email Adresses with double opt in and out. On the 12. July a little ISP has sent a request to hostpoint, regarding my friend and his spaming activity. The ISP told Hostpoint, that www.housestation.ch was blocked by some ISPs. As i know, sunrise has never blocked the Homepage of housestation. I think that the complaint from the ISP is a "private hate" against my friend. Therefore i wanna ask, if you can tell me if you (ISP) are blocking this Homepage, and if yes, how can we find out what the reason of the blocking is. Also we have complained at Hostpoint regarding the forward of the complaint without having the related Mailheader of the Spammail sent by my friend. The other thing is, that the Spammail in question was sent out on May. But my friend has sent out the Newsletter trough hostpoint the first time on the beginning of june. Thanks you for your help and feedbacks. Sincerly, Daniele Ladu Senior Technical Support Operator Sunrise TDC Switzerland AG Abuse Team Thurgauerstrasse 60 8050 Zürich Tel. +41 1 300 53 61 Fax +41 58 777 97 07 Mail daniele.ladu(a)sunrise.net Mail abuse(a)sunrise.net Internet www.sunrise.ch *************************************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify it to the sender. Cet email ainsi que tous les fichiers qui lui sont attaches sont confidentiels et reserves a l'usage exclusif des personnes auxquelles ils sont adresses. Si vous avez recu cet email par erreur, veuillez avoir l'obligeance d'en informer son emetteur. Dieses email sowie alle damit verbundenen Dateien sind vertraulich und nur fuer diejenigen Personen bestimmt, an die es adressiert ist. Wenn Sie dieses email irrtuemlicherweise erhalten haben, bitten wir Sie, den Absender zu informieren. ***************************************************************************************

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