Dear Swinoggers,
we are receiving "Information requests" from a "do not reply" email with a footer containing the following the below attached information.
I tried to find out where to login, without success, tried to reach them by email, even tried to call. The result is:
- no information on how where any information should be found - no response ever to any email (I tried 4x) - Seems like _ISC-EJPD-UPF-Provid@isc-ejpd.admin.ch is a dead dropbox - the phone picks up after 4x ringing with a hissing, no person talking
Is this a known scam or is this new scam?
Cheers,
Nico
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: donotreply@isc-ejpd.admin.ch Subject: Reminder: Task Overdue in IRC! Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2025 09:00:08 +0100 (CET) (26 minutes, 47 seconds ago) Reply-To: donotreply@isc-ejpd.admin.ch
Dear Madam, dear Sir,
The Information Request XXXXX is overdue. Please check your requests in IRC and process it as soon as possible. Thank you.
In case of login issues: Please contact the Providermanagement PTSS with your login details
Best regards
Post and Telecommunications Surveillance Service PTSS Federal Department of Justice and Police FDJP
Eichenweg 3, 3003 Bern Phone +41 58 463 34 29 _ISC-EJPD-UPF-Provid@isc-ejpd.admin.ch www.li.admin.ch *** This is an automated message. Replies to this email will neither be received nor processed. *** --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Hi Nico
Requests for information must be made by registered mail and include a court order. For me, such requests sent by email will be sent straight to the trash anyway. I would classify it as a scam.
Regards, Philippe
Am 27.10.2025 um 09:31 schrieb Nico Schottelius via swinog swinog@lists.swinog.ch:
Dear Swinoggers,
we are receiving "Information requests" from a "do not reply" email with a footer containing the following the below attached information.
I tried to find out where to login, without success, tried to reach them by email, even tried to call. The result is:
- no information on how where any information should be found
- no response ever to any email (I tried 4x)
- Seems like _ISC-EJPD-UPF-Provid@isc-ejpd.admin.ch is a dead dropbox
- the phone picks up after 4x ringing with a hissing, no person talking
Is this a known scam or is this new scam?
Cheers,
Nico
From: donotreply@isc-ejpd.admin.ch Subject: Reminder: Task Overdue in IRC! Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2025 09:00:08 +0100 (CET) (26 minutes, 47 seconds ago) Reply-To: donotreply@isc-ejpd.admin.ch
Dear Madam, dear Sir,
The Information Request XXXXX is overdue. Please check your requests in IRC and process it as soon as possible. Thank you.
In case of login issues: Please contact the Providermanagement PTSS with your login details
Best regards
Post and Telecommunications Surveillance Service PTSS Federal Department of Justice and Police FDJP
Eichenweg 3, 3003 Bern Phone +41 58 463 34 29 _ISC-EJPD-UPF-Provid@isc-ejpd.admin.ch www.li.admin.ch
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Hi Nico
Not that I knew.. Maybe it is a good idea to also report it to EJPD. Looks like phishing.
Cheers Mihai Sandoiu
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Nico Schottelius via swinog swinog@lists.swinog.ch Gesendet: Montag, 27. Oktober 2025 09:31 An: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Betreff: [swinog] Scam request from _ISC-EJPD-UPF-Provid
Dear Swinoggers,
we are receiving "Information requests" from a "do not reply" email with a footer containing the following the below attached information.
I tried to find out where to login, without success, tried to reach them by email, even tried to call. The result is:
- no information on how where any information should be found - no response ever to any email (I tried 4x) - Seems like _ISC-EJPD-UPF-Provid@isc-ejpd.admin.ch is a dead dropbox - the phone picks up after 4x ringing with a hissing, no person talking
Is this a known scam or is this new scam?
Cheers,
Nico
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: donotreply@isc-ejpd.admin.ch Subject: Reminder: Task Overdue in IRC! Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2025 09:00:08 +0100 (CET) (26 minutes, 47 seconds ago) Reply-To: donotreply@isc-ejpd.admin.ch
Dear Madam, dear Sir,
The Information Request XXXXX is overdue. Please check your requests in IRC and process it as soon as possible. Thank you.
In case of login issues: Please contact the Providermanagement PTSS with your login details
Best regards
Post and Telecommunications Surveillance Service PTSS Federal Department of Justice and Police FDJP
Eichenweg 3, 3003 Bern Phone +41 58 463 34 29 _ISC-EJPD-UPF-Provid@isc-ejpd.admin.ch www.li.admin.ch *** This is an automated message. Replies to this email will neither be received nor processed. *** --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Hello Nico I didn't interact with IRC from EJPD for some time, but the messaging in 2021 was very close to the snipped you posted to the mailinglist. The signature back then was mostly identical, but with another phone number. +41 58 463 34 29 Seems to be a legit phone number, according to: https://www.li.admin.ch/en/ptss/contact So I don't see any phishing here and seems legit. You might want to check this out, if you're not familiar with it already: https://www.li.admin.ch/en/themes/duties-of-telecommunication-providers The login is available here: https://portal.ejpd.admin.ch/portal/?login The contact email I used was: servicedesk@isc-ejpd.admin.ch Hope this helps. Best regards Matias
On Monday, October 27, 2025 09:31 CET, Nico Schottelius via swinog swinog@lists.swinog.ch wrote:
Dear Swinoggers,
we are receiving "Information requests" from a "do not reply" email with a footer containing the following the below attached information.
I tried to find out where to login, without success, tried to reach them by email, even tried to call. The result is:
- no information on how where any information should be found - no response ever to any email (I tried 4x) - Seems like _ISC-EJPD-UPF-Provid@isc-ejpd.admin.ch is a dead dropbox - the phone picks up after 4x ringing with a hissing, no person talking
Is this a known scam or is this new scam?
Cheers,
Nico
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: donotreply@isc-ejpd.admin.ch Subject: Reminder: Task Overdue in IRC! Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2025 09:00:08 +0100 (CET) (26 minutes, 47 seconds ago) Reply-To: donotreply@isc-ejpd.admin.ch
Dear Madam, dear Sir,
The Information Request XXXXX is overdue. Please check your requests in IRC and process it as soon as possible. Thank you.
In case of login issues: Please contact the Providermanagement PTSS with your login details
Best regards
Post and Telecommunications Surveillance Service PTSS Federal Department of Justice and Police FDJP
Eichenweg 3, 3003 Bern Phone +41 58 463 34 29 _ISC-EJPD-UPF-Provid@isc-ejpd.admin.ch www.li.admin.ch *** This is an automated message. Replies to this email will neither be received nor processed. *** --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-- Sustainable and modern Infrastructures by ungleich.ch
Hello Nico
Seems legit. But do not click any links, just login on the portal which Matias mentioned and you will see all open requests. On the login page is also a phone number and e-mail if you have troubles logging in.
Regards Stefan
Am 27.10.2025 um 11:50 schrieb Matias Meier via swinog:
Hello Nico
I didn't interact with IRC from EJPD for some time, but the messaging in 2021 was very close to the snipped you posted to the mailinglist. The signature back then was mostly identical, but with another phone number. +41 58 463 34 29 Seems to be a legit phone number, according to: https://www.li.admin.ch/en/ptss/contact https://www.li.admin.ch/en/ptss/contact
So I don't see any phishing here and seems legit.
You might want to check this out, if you're not familiar with it already: https://www.li.admin.ch/en/themes/duties-of-telecommunication-providers The login is available here: https://portal.ejpd.admin.ch/portal/?login
The contact email I used was: servicedesk@isc-ejpd.admin.ch
Hope this helps.
Best regards Matias
On Monday, October 27, 2025 09:31 CET, Nico Schottelius via swinog swinog@lists.swinog.ch wrote:
Dear Swinoggers,
we are receiving "Information requests" from a "do not reply" email with a footer containing the following the below attached information.
I tried to find out where to login, without success, tried to reach them by email, even tried to call. The result is:
- no information on how where any information should be found
- no response ever to any email (I tried 4x)
- Seems like _ISC-EJPD-UPF-Provid@isc-ejpd.admin.ch is a dead dropbox
- the phone picks up after 4x ringing with a hissing, no person talking
Is this a known scam or is this new scam?
Cheers,
Nico
From: donotreply@isc-ejpd.admin.ch Subject: Reminder: Task Overdue in IRC! Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2025 09:00:08 +0100 (CET) (26 minutes, 47 seconds ago) Reply-To: donotreply@isc-ejpd.admin.ch
Dear Madam, dear Sir,
The Information Request XXXXX is overdue. Please check your requests in IRC and process it as soon as possible. Thank you.
In case of login issues: Please contact the Providermanagement PTSS with your login details
Best regards
Post and Telecommunications Surveillance Service PTSS Federal Department of Justice and Police FDJP
Eichenweg 3, 3003 Bern Phone +41 58 463 34 29 _ISC-EJPD-UPF-Provid@isc-ejpd.admin.ch www.li.admin.ch *** This is an automated message. Replies to this email will neither be received nor processed. ***
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Update to my own mail, this is so bad I've to share:
- The phone number in the email is just dead. Plain dead. - Only after sending the email to the swinog list, I got a reply from EJPD -> Seems they are reading here more than their own support email - During the email exchange they insisted that I should "get the information" but delayed the answer to WHERE TO FIND it though explicity asked - After I got various private responses to my swinog mail I was able to figure out where to login (Swinog is more knowledgable than EJPD) - After login the IRC page was empty. Clearing the cache, using incognito mode, nothing helped. A blank white page. - Sidenote: Who the F names something in the IT world after Internet relay chat (IRC) and deems to be taken serious? What's the next abreviation? Authority inquiry aka AI? - After various further mails, "the IT" fixed the problem and I can see the request - The request is for a phone number - The worst part: We are not a telco, have never been a telco nor do we ever want to be one.
The sheer incompetence I've witnessed in this exchange is frightening.
So many WTF. Dear EJPD, if you read this, you seriously need to improve. Your mail and behaviour is matching scammers and amateurs more than any normal sane authority (aka NSA).
Totally puzzled,
Nico
Nico Schottelius via swinog swinog@lists.swinog.ch writes:
Dear Swinoggers,
we are receiving "Information requests" from a "do not reply" email with a footer containing the following the below attached information.
I tried to find out where to login, without success, tried to reach them by email, even tried to call. The result is:
- no information on how where any information should be found
- no response ever to any email (I tried 4x)
- Seems like _ISC-EJPD-UPF-Provid@isc-ejpd.admin.ch is a dead dropbox
- the phone picks up after 4x ringing with a hissing, no person talking
Is this a known scam or is this new scam?
Cheers,
Nico
From: donotreply@isc-ejpd.admin.ch Subject: Reminder: Task Overdue in IRC! Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2025 09:00:08 +0100 (CET) (26 minutes, 47 seconds ago) Reply-To: donotreply@isc-ejpd.admin.ch
Dear Madam, dear Sir,
The Information Request XXXXX is overdue. Please check your requests in IRC and process it as soon as possible. Thank you.
In case of login issues: Please contact the Providermanagement PTSS with your login details
Best regards
Post and Telecommunications Surveillance Service PTSS Federal Department of Justice and Police FDJP
Eichenweg 3, 3003 Bern Phone +41 58 463 34 29 _ISC-EJPD-UPF-Provid@isc-ejpd.admin.ch www.li.admin.ch
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Hi Nico,
Unfortunately, this is my experience from EJPD as well. Wrong timezones, number-flips and worse. Luckily with IPv6 often you don’t have a result then because only a tiny fraction of the IP-Space is assigned to active users. With IPv4... you just don’t know because you do not have the context to evaluate if your disclosure is valid / accurate. I cannot disclose any details, some (not all!) are rumours anyways and I don’t want to make any sensational claims. But IMO these BÜPF processes are not handled with the appropriate accuracy and/or technical understanding as they would need to be.
Bottom line: Don’t trust them and only disclose what you are legally obligated to. Especially for follow-ups which looks like guesswork after an obvious wrong inquiry.
Disclaimer: Above information might be wrong or entirely fictional and shall serve for educational purposes only. None of the information provided can be used in any legal context or be referred to in that regard. (Nur das nöd no irgendöpper dumm tuät)
br Simon
From: Nico Schottelius via swinog swinog@lists.swinog.ch Date: Monday, 27 October 2025 at 15:11 To: SwiNOG Mailinglist swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] Re: Scam request from _ISC-EJPD-UPF-Provid
Update to my own mail, this is so bad I've to share:
- The phone number in the email is just dead. Plain dead. - Only after sending the email to the swinog list, I got a reply from EJPD -> Seems they are reading here more than their own support email - During the email exchange they insisted that I should "get the information" but delayed the answer to WHERE TO FIND it though explicity asked - After I got various private responses to my swinog mail I was able to figure out where to login (Swinog is more knowledgable than EJPD) - After login the IRC page was empty. Clearing the cache, using incognito mode, nothing helped. A blank white page. - Sidenote: Who the F names something in the IT world after Internet relay chat (IRC) and deems to be taken serious? What's the next abreviation? Authority inquiry aka AI? - After various further mails, "the IT" fixed the problem and I can see the request - The request is for a phone number - The worst part: We are not a telco, have never been a telco nor do we ever want to be one.
The sheer incompetence I've witnessed in this exchange is frightening.
So many WTF. Dear EJPD, if you read this, you seriously need to improve. Your mail and behaviour is matching scammers and amateurs more than any normal sane authority (aka NSA).
Totally puzzled,
Nico
Nico Schottelius via swinog swinog@lists.swinog.ch writes:
Dear Swinoggers,
we are receiving "Information requests" from a "do not reply" email with a footer containing the following the below attached information.
I tried to find out where to login, without success, tried to reach them by email, even tried to call. The result is:
- no information on how where any information should be found
- no response ever to any email (I tried 4x)
- Seems like _ISC-EJPD-UPF-Provid@isc-ejpd.admin.ch is a dead dropbox
- the phone picks up after 4x ringing with a hissing, no person talking
Is this a known scam or is this new scam?
Cheers,
Nico
From: donotreply@isc-ejpd.admin.ch Subject: Reminder: Task Overdue in IRC! Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2025 09:00:08 +0100 (CET) (26 minutes, 47 seconds ago) Reply-To: donotreply@isc-ejpd.admin.ch
Dear Madam, dear Sir,
The Information Request XXXXX is overdue. Please check your requests in IRC and process it as soon as possible. Thank you.
In case of login issues: Please contact the Providermanagement PTSS with your login details
Best regards
Post and Telecommunications Surveillance Service PTSS Federal Department of Justice and Police FDJP
Eichenweg 3, 3003 Bern Phone +41 58 463 34 29 _ISC-EJPD-UPF-Provid@isc-ejpd.admin.ch www.li.admin.chhttp://www.li.admin.ch
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