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RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
by Glogger Steven 31 May '06

31 May '06

hi ruedi > What do you think of reading this mailing list as RSS feed? > Good/bad idea? bad. how do you answer to posts? ,-) for me RSS is not a solution for participating in a mailinglist. if you want to have read only access, it may be an alternative... so you still need the mails ;-) > I personally would very much favour this approach for the following > reasons: > - My inbox remains emptier/smaller <ironic> yes, you're right, we've got about 654'465'108 mails a year on this mailinglist ;-) makes sense ,-) </ironic> > - No problems with auto replys which flood the whole list well, as i said: mail will remain, so auto reply's will remain ... > - Only headers get downloaded automatically. This saves bandwidth. i dont know, but i think bandwidth is not really a problem with that mailinglist, right? we're not (yet) at nanog's size ,) > So, dear administrator, why not give it a try? Google, for > example, recommends this software on the server side: > http://jmason.org/software/scripts/mailman-archive-to-rss.txt i think you're gladly invited to provide an RSS feed for those people which cannot live without it ;-) cheers -steven

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RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
by Glogger Steven 31 May '06

31 May '06

> Whom does the RSS feed serve the most? Surely not the active > part of the SwiNOG-Community. Those guys can just as well > read the mails and answer to random topics they feel the need to. ack. > RSS does not give you that possibility, you're readonly. A > perfect excuse to just consume and give nothing back > (information that is). I don't like that idea. full ack. > Mail is as easy and flexible that it's even readable on a > cell phone or an old-fart PDA. Just because some of you have > a shiny new Ogo or Mulberry (whatchamacallit?) does not mean > everyone wants to replace his Palm IIIx now. another ack. > Finally, HTML-Mails with Flash and JavaScript do go the same > way, so don't even think about coming up with THAT! final ack. -steven

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AW: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
by Hofer Ruedi 31 May '06

31 May '06

Steven, you're my hero! /ruedi > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftrag von Glogger Steven > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2006 11:22 > An: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Betreff: RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed > > so, something like http://www.mrmouse.ch/swinog-rss/ ? ,-) > > -steven > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Hofer Ruedi > > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:56 AM > > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > > Subject: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed > > > > > > Hi all > > > > What do you think of reading this mailing list as RSS feed? > > Good/bad idea? > > > > I personally would very much favour this approach for the following > > reasons: > > - My inbox remains emptier/smaller > > - No problems with auto replys which flood the whole list > > - Only headers get downloaded automatically. This saves bandwidth. > > > > RSS clients are found in Firefox, Thunderbird. That means, > > users have the necessary tools already installed! > > > > So, dear administrator, why not give it a try? Google, for > > example, recommends this software on the server side: > > http://jmason.org/software/scripts/mailman-archive-to-rss.txt > > > > Cheerio > > Ruedi Hofer, Energy Water Berne > > > > _______________________________________________ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >

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RE: RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
by Glogger Steven 31 May '06

31 May '06

can someone remove this guy which is completely not able to give his autoresponder some "artificial intelligence" to at least respond ONCE and not each time ;-)? -steven > -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of > gbadel(a)freestudios.ch > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 11:23 AM > To: Glogger Steven > Subject: RE: RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed > > > I will be out of the office starting 22.05.2006 and will not > return until 05.06.2006. > > Your email will not be forwarded. I will respond to your > message when I return. > Please contact Nicolas Guillemenot +41 22 592 50 00 for any > urgent matters. > > Best Regards > > GrÃ©goire Badel >

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RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
by Glogger Steven 31 May '06

31 May '06

so, something like http://www.mrmouse.ch/swinog-rss/ ? ,-) -steven > -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Hofer Ruedi > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:56 AM > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Subject: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed > > > Hi all > > What do you think of reading this mailing list as RSS feed? > Good/bad idea? > > I personally would very much favour this approach for the following > reasons: > - My inbox remains emptier/smaller > - No problems with auto replys which flood the whole list > - Only headers get downloaded automatically. This saves bandwidth. > > RSS clients are found in Firefox, Thunderbird. That means, > users have the necessary tools already installed! > > So, dear administrator, why not give it a try? Google, for > example, recommends this software on the server side: > http://jmason.org/software/scripts/mailman-archive-to-rss.txt > > Cheerio > Ruedi Hofer, Energy Water Berne > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >

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RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
by Glogger Steven 31 May '06

31 May '06

> what about simply replacing the mailing list by a blog? ;-) > We could call it "swinog 2.0"... Then we would have rss as > wished by Ruedi, anti-spam and anti-autoresponder captcha > protection, etc. by an blog? are you insane!? well...at least we have a well-trained blog-chief aka rapido :) but we could also try to set up an own IPTV stream and each of us can ... ... ok, lets foget about that :) but some mailclients support also filtering and rules.. maybe this is also a solution for ruedi :) -steven

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RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
by Glogger Steven 31 May '06

31 May '06

sounds very complicating... > -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Olivier Mueller > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:44 AM > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Subject: RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed > > 'morning Steven & list, > > On Wed, 2006-05-31 at 09:17 +0200, Glogger Steven wrote: > > how do you answer to posts? ,-) > > for me RSS is not a solution for participating in a mailinglist. if > > you want to have read only access, it may be an > alternative... so you > > still need the mails ;-) > > what about simply replacing the mailing list by a blog? ;-) > We could call it "swinog 2.0"... Then we would have rss as > wished by Ruedi, anti-spam and anti-autoresponder captcha > protection, etc. > > But it would require moderators for the news topics... > > Have a nice (!= cold & rainy) day :) > Olivier > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >

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Reading list as RSS feed
by Hofer Ruedi 31 May '06

31 May '06

Hi all What do you think of reading this mailing list as RSS feed? Good/bad idea? I personally would very much favour this approach for the following reasons: - My inbox remains emptier/smaller - No problems with auto replys which flood the whole list - Only headers get downloaded automatically. This saves bandwidth. RSS clients are found in Firefox, Thunderbird. That means, users have the necessary tools already installed! So, dear administrator, why not give it a try? Google, for example, recommends this software on the server side: http://jmason.org/software/scripts/mailman-archive-to-rss.txt Cheerio Ruedi Hofer, Energy Water Berne

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Job Offer: NetworkEngineer, Basel
by Flavio Curti 29 May '06

29 May '06

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About the Fiber Cut in Augst yesterday; reasons, consequences and solutions
by Guillaume Leclanche 25 May '06

25 May '06

Hello, As some of you probably already know, our (Fibre Lac) 144-fibers cable was completely cut yesterday on the motorway between Basel and Zürich, somewhere on the communal territory of KaiserAugst, in Canton Argau, near the border with Basel-Land. On this part of the motorway, there are a lot of ducts burried, something like six 120mm ducts and twelve 34 mm. The people doing work there were installing new driver crash barriers, which is done by digging holes for the posts and then putting the posts in the holes. They go as far as 1m for the barrier to be correctly installed. The 34mm fiber ducts, used by Fibre Lac and two international operators, are burried below the six 120mm ducts, and the whole thing is filled with concrete. The workers still managed to have the posts go through two (empty) 120mm ducts and reached, 60cm under the ground, fiber optics cables, among which they broke several the tubes, but only one really filled with fibers, ours. The other operators were not cut. Among impacted customers and partners, there were several operators and internet exchanges, and especially SwissIX and IXEurope (TIX link Geneva-Zurich). We then quickly started to look for a rescue solution at least for the active network (we couldn't really find a 144-fibers unsused cable on another path), and we managed to have a rescue link set up at about 22:40, thanks to several people : - Freddy Kuenzler, Init7, for lending the fiber pair, and spending hours trying to get the whole thing working, - Sascha Kaufmann, IXEurope, for spending hours trying to get the whole thing working, - Herr Bolliger, IWB, for spending hours trying to get the whole thing working, when it was public holidays in Basel. Today, at 5am, a 200m temporary fiber cable was replacing the broken one, laid down in a temporary duct behind the fence along the motorway, this is obviously not secure, but at least bytes can flow again. We're working on the definitive solution, which means re-opening the motorway, changing the damaged duct parts, and blow a new cable. If you want more information, I'll be happy to provide you with it, since I believe it's quite an ususual incident and I think it's better for everyone to know what happens and what is done ! I and Fibre Lac globally, we are really sorry for every one of you who got issues directly or indirectly due to this incident. Thank you for your understanding ! Guillaume

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