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Berne Beer Event No. 4!
by Nik Hug 28 Jul '06

28 Jul '06

Hello everybody It's time to announce the forth Berne Beer-Event, also known as BE2-Event 4 The proposal is as usual: - Location: Altes Tramdepot Bern [1] - Date: Friday 2006-07-28 - Time: starting 18.00 until ? - Attendees: the usual (network and servers admins...) also non-swinog members are welcome (feel free to forward this email to colleagues) [1] http://www.altestramdepot.ch/ Please give me a short feedback if you will attend in order to make a reserveration as early as possible. Regards, Nik

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Happy Sysadmin Day!
by Michele Capobianco 28 Jul '06

28 Jul '06

Hey all I wish all Admins a nice Sysadmin Day and lots of Gifts! Here is the official website www.sysadminday.com I made yesthurday evening in this small one www.sysadminday.ch (sorry, only in german) More content will come soonish (i hope) See ya Michele -------- Online Consulting AG, Michele Capobianco, System Administrator, Weststrasse 38, CH-9500 Wil Phone +41 (0)71 913 31 31, Fax +41 (0)71 913 31 32 http://www.online.ch, mailto:michele.capobianco@online.ch -------- -------------------------------------------------------- 10 Jahre Online Consulting AG Seit Mai 1996 ist Online an Ihrer Seite - Wir danken allen herzlich, die zu unserem Erfolg und zehnjahrigen Firmenbestehen beigetragen haben! --------------------------------------------------------

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Out-of-Office Policies?
by Matthias Leisi 26 Jul '06

26 Jul '06

Hi there, I'm trying to gather arguments to stop the Out-of-Office notification nonsense. I know the technical arguments against OoO and other forms of auto-responders, but I'm interested to learn how different organisations are handling it. If you don't want to answer publicly, please respond to me directly (matthias(a)leisi.net - remember that the Swinog list overrides my Reply-To: header). I will respect any requests for anonymous handling, but I will send a summary to the list. You may also answer in verbose form instead of using the questionnaire below :) My questions: 0. What kind of organisation are you answering for (eg for your ISP staff, for your ISP customers, for your company users etc.)? About how many users do you handle? 1. Does your organisation allow OoO to external recipients? If you answer no to question 1, no further questions required :) If you answer yes, please continue below: 2. Do you have any restrictions as to when/how OoO notifications are sent? [ ] No restriction _or_ [ ] No OoO to detected spam [ ] OoO only to senders in the user's address book [ ] Only to senders with matching SPF/DKIM/Sender-Id etc [ ] Other restriction: 3. Have you had any DNSBL listings due to OoO notifications? If yes, which DNSBLs? 4. How do you send out OoO notifications? [ ] No special handling [ ] Over a dedicated IP address Thanks a lot for your contribution, -- Matthias

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Cisco 876
by Richard Klingler 25 Jul '06

25 Jul '06

EHLO (o; Someone got by any chance 1 876 on his desk he wants to get rid of? (o; thanx in advance rick

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Preventive blocking
by Michel Renfer 22 Jul '06

22 Jul '06

Hi All Anyone saw the "10vor10" -report about blocking access to child pornographic sites yesterday evening? I'm really surprised, that bigger ISPs like Cablecom now would support that. Interesting is also the statement, that smaller ISPs already confirmed their support for this "preventive blocking"... Article on SWISSTXT: http://www.swisstxt.ch/SF1/114-00.html 10vor10 Report: http://www.sf.tv/var/videoplayer.php?videourl=http%3A%2F%2Freal.sri.ch%2 Framgen%2Fsfdrs%2F10vor10%2F2006%2F10vor10_21072006.rm%3Fstart%3D0%3A14% 3A27.159%26amp%3Bend%3D0%3A17%3A33.736 cheers, michel

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Re: [swinog] Preventive blocking
by Rudolphi 22 Jul '06

22 Jul '06

Blocking is as well political activism as nonsense, as long as many of the childporn-sellers set up as many as 20 sites a day on yahoo. These sites are pointing on perfectly legal sites on which one can make a payment for receiving a password which enables user to get into a p2p-network where the cp-material is distributed. Furthermore: ISPs would have to update the list all day and night - a neverending job. And as long as some police departments in some other countries are setting up cp-sites as a trap and therefore are actively distributing child pornography, the whole "plan of action" as described in TV becomes pretty weird. Are elections soon? But anyway, if Cablecom _really_ wants to block all these sites, the responsible guy may contact me off-list. I'll be glad to send him may daily harvest of cp-addresses :-p guido ____________ Ursprüngliche Mitteilung ____________ Betreff: Re: [swinog] Preventive blocking Autor: Fredy Kuenzler <kuenzler(a)init7.net> Datum: 22. Juli 2006 18.32.21 Michel Renfer schrieb: > There were a few approches until now, already with low success or > technical implications (other sites also blocked, etc.) > > The discussion now happend on society level. Any bigger ISP will > never offically reject such blocking requests for child pornography > in a tv interview as this can hardly hit their image in the public. > > The technical questions of the blocking are completly fadet out. They > didn't really care anyone. Blocking can and will definitivly not > work. Endusers can implement workarrounds in less than a minute. > Other questions like, who's maintaining the list etc. are not even > discussed. > > I'm really concerned about the way that this story will/ can go... Full Ack. After this letter arrived, I wrote a blog entry: http://www.blogg.ch/index.php?/archives/444-Kampagne-Stopp-Kinderpornografi… Few days later I got a call from the journalist of SF who did the report in 10vor10. Means: the journalist was perfectly aware of all the technical and political issues in this case, but he masked out it completly. IMHO a bad job, 10vor10. F. _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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*SPECIAL* SwiNOG-BE40 - BBQ/Beer Event 40 - 7th of August @ Oerlikerpark Block this subject
by Glogger Steven 21 Jul '06

21 Jul '06

hi all yesss.. already the 40th beer event and its summer! so be prepared for another great swinog-beer and grill event ;-) we go again for this BBQ event Oerlikerpark (near Center Eleven / Zurich Oerlikon). Link for registration http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/ please read the whole e-mail - there are some important informations :) when is it? ------------ 7th of august at around 18.30 - until.. well..open end ;) Registration deadline: 06.08.2006 24:00:00 ok, the registration deadline is kind of obsolete. anyone who wants to come just comes. we have enough space ,-) (but for the restaurant in case of bad weather it's quite important) what to food / drink? ----------------------- quite simple: what you bring with you is what you can eat and drink. some ppl are sponsoring some things, but don't rely on that. we will have some grills and some place to seat. since i'm just coming back from holidays one day before the event i might not be able to get some charcoal but i will at least sponsor some one-way-usable-trow-away grills. and for sure i'll bring the little ventilator ;-) (thanks another time to roman ;-)) so, if you register and you want to contribute something for others please note it to the "COMMENTS" field when registering. this is very helpful for others to know, that to bring ;-) this could be: - beer - some hot sauces (venty?) - chips & snacks - good mood - bread - desserts - salads - etc.. where is it? ------------- http://www.gis.zh.ch/gb4/zvv/zvv.asp?zvv=ja&hst=0103789 it's in the 'Oerlikerpark' near Center Eleven / Zurich Oerlikon. with the bus 64 or 75 from bahnhof oerlikon until 'Bollingerweg'. or you come with the bus number 80 until 'Birchstrasse' and then walk behind the credit suisse building. ith the car you might park in the Parkhaus Octavo (in the CS building) or in he near of the center eleven (coop; 5min away and has open until 20.00). see pictures on http://gallery.glogger.ch/swinogbe16 problems (!!!): --------------- there is NO public toilet in the near. so please consider this before leaving for the BE ,-) there might be some toilets walking some minutes around ;-) if there is (very) bad weather: -------------------------------- On Bad weather (will be communicated on the same day around noon) we go to the "Outback" Bahnhof Stadelhofen if the weather is very bad on that date we would move to the "Outback" at Bahnhof Stadelhofen. I will make an email until 12:00 about the change if necessairy and update the website. If someone cannot find us: call me on my handy: 079 / 277 92 35 greetings -steven

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isp evaluation in Shanghai
by Frédéric Jutzet 19 Jul '06

19 Jul '06

Hi All, Any personal experience, top-x report, to select a good ISP (broadband with business services, or only business product) in Shanghai ? Thank. Best regards. Frédo

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SwiNOG-BE39 - Beer Event 39 - 17th of July 06 @Pumpstation / Zurich Lake
by Glogger Steven 13 Jul '06

13 Jul '06

dear swinogers sorry i'm a little bit late with this mail. but in one of my last posts i told you to reserve the 17th :) anyway, deadline is sunday 18:00 for reg. some important words: ====================== since we're reserving at the pumpstation, and officially we're not allowed to reserve any table there, we have to be really on time. i have to give up the remaining space around 18:45/18:50. so, if you're not punctional it might be that your seat is already gone and you'll organize a new seat by yourself... we've had some troubles with the restaurant last year because people came too late, we've had an almost empty table around for about an hour. this is bad for their business and this is bad for us (no reservations anymore...). if you're not sure if you'll be on time just drop a note to the comment field... the facts for the next event: ----------------------------- Date: 17th of July 2006 Time: starting around 18.30 o'clock Location: @lake in restaurant "Pumpstation" (see image; www.pumpstation.ch) On Bad weather (will be communicated the same day around noon) we go to the "Outback" Bahnhof Stadelhofen Registration deadline: 16.07.2006 18:00:00 Registration: ------------- Please register here: http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/ Since we have to make reservations, i need to know who's coming and who not. If you cannot attend and you're registered please inform me asap. Important: If someone cannot find us: call me on my handy: 079 / 277 92 35 greetings -steven

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Hardware: looking for a cisco catalyst 4006 fan tray
by Frédéric Martin 12 Jul '06

12 Jul '06

Hello, I'm looking for a Cisco Catalyst 4006 fan tray (Part number WS-X4005). Does anyone have one/two pieces to sell (either new or refurbished) ? Thank you Frédéric

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