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SwiNOG-BE51 - Beer Event 51 - 16th of July 2007 @ Pumpi/Zurich
by Steven.Glogger＠swisscom.com 12 Jul '07

12 Jul '07

hi all here is the announcement for the 51th beer event. ,-) please keep in mind for the pumpstation: i need to make a reservation. so register and be punctual otherwise your seat is gone. the facts for the next event: ----------------------------- Date: 16th of July 2007 Time: starting around 18.30 o'clock Location: @lake in restaurant "Pumpstation" (see image; www.pumpstation.ch) On Bad weather (will be communicated on the same day around noon) we go to the "Outback" Bahnhof Stadelhofen Registration deadline: 15.07.2007 23:00:00 Registration: ------------- Please register here: http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/ since we have to make reservations, i need to know who's coming and who not. If you cannot attend and you're registered please inform me asap. greetings -steven

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Route of the day
by Erich Hohermuth 12 Jul '07

12 Jul '07

Nice Traffic Engineering by Swisscom ... www.bluewin.ch vs. www.swisscom.ch traceroute www.bluewin.ch traceroute to www.bluewin.ch (195.186.3.80), 64 hops max, 44 byte packets 1 public-gw (212.101.4.129) 0.472 ms 0.422 ms 0.422 ms 2 zuchwil-b-xmr1-v4 (212.101.0.161) 0.356 ms 0.305 ms 0.273 ms 3 zurich-t-bb5-v-2 (212.101.0.231) 2.210 ms 2.072 ms 2.086 ms 4 sl-gw10-zur-5-0-0.sprintlink.net (80.93.9.145) 2.492 ms 2.435 ms * 5 sl-bb20-zur-13-0.sprintlink.net (80.93.8.37) 2.267 ms 2.212 ms 2.546 ms 6 sl-bb20-fra-11-1.sprintlink.net (213.206.129.155) 8.045 ms 7.715 ms 7.568 ms 7 sl-bb21-fra-15-0.sprintlink.net (217.147.96.34) 7.731 ms 7.569 ms 7.551 ms 8 ge-6-13.car1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.68.111.141) 24.140 ms * 24.193 ms 9 ae-31-55.ebr1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.68.118.158) 19.180 ms ae-31-53.ebr1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.68.118.94) 19.079 ms ae-32-54.ebr2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.68.118.126) 19.027 ms 10 ae-2.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.132.141) 24.612 ms ae-1-100.ebr1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.132.125) 23.228 ms ae-2.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.132.141) 29.033 ms 11 ae-2.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.132.141) 35.436 ms ae-5.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.132.113) 112.251 ms ae-2.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.132.141) 30.059 ms 12 ae-5.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.132.113) 111.073 ms ae-72-72.csw2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.150) 115.081 ms ae-5.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.132.113) 104.589 ms 13 ae-74-74.ebr4.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.181) 104.390 ms ae-72-72.csw2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.150) 104.975 ms ae-84-84.ebr4.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.185) 108.475 ms 14 ae-84-84.ebr4.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.185) 107.689 ms ae-4.ebr3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.132.81) 173.372 ms 161.967 ms 15 ae-4.ebr3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.132.81) 161.863 ms ae-2.ebr3.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.132.9) 167.725 ms ae-4.ebr3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.132.81) 172.804 ms 16 * ae-2.ebr3.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.132.9) 167.666 ms ae-73-73.csw2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.134.230) 167.334 ms 17 ae-73-73.csw2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.134.230) 178.840 ms ae-83-83.csw3.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.134.234) 179.588 ms ge-1-3-0-89.bbr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.18.130) 168.250 ms 18 ge-1-3-0-89.bbr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.18.130) 167.554 ms so-14-0.hsa4.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.114.158) 167.686 ms ge-1-3-0-89.bbr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.18.130) 168.224 ms 19 * so-14-0.hsa4.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.114.158) 168.031 ms * 20 * * * 21 * * * 22 i79zhb-005-pos4-0.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.159.5) 654.770 ms * i00nye-005-pos5-2.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.159.9) 657.152 ms 23 * * * 24 tge3-3.bwrt1inb.bluewin.ch (195.186.0.113) 661.318 ms * * 25 * * * 26 * * * traceroute to www.swisscom.ch (138.190.1.60), 64 hops max, 44 byte packets 1 public-gw (212.101.4.129) 0.717 ms 0.574 ms 0.397 ms 2 zuchwil-b-xmr1-v4 (212.101.0.161) 0.342 ms 0.407 ms 0.357 ms 3 zurich-t-bb5-v-2 (212.101.0.231) 2.280 ms 2.030 ms 2.050 ms 4 sl-gw10-zur-5-0-0.sprintlink.net (80.93.9.145) 2.510 ms 2.259 ms * 5 sle-swiss3-1-0.sprintlink.net (80.93.9.66) 2.362 ms 2.189 ms 2.207 ms 6 i79tix-015-gig2-13.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.129.58) 153.872 ms 208.285 ms 3.572 ms 7 i79zhh-015-xxx1-4.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.129.73) 18.265 ms 2.460 ms 2.306 ms 8 i64beb-000-gig0-3.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.130.161) 4.573 ms 4.601 ms 4.274 ms 9 i64beb-061-gig0-1.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.156.142) 5.306 ms 5.153 ms 5.154 ms 10 cit-00-lb-ser1-0.ce.ip-plus.net (164.128.156.242) 6.172 ms 5.535 ms 7.259 ms 11 * * * Regards Erich -- * Erich Hohermuth IP Engineer - SolNet (AS 9044) PGPKEY-46A08FCB * * phone: +41 32 517 6220 / sip:9044*463@inoc-dba.pch.net *

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As we talk about jobs....
by Richard Klingler 11 Jul '07

11 Jul '07

Evnin' My company is also hiring in several countries including Switzerland (o; We are looking for (Switzerland): - General Project Managers (IT/IP) - CCIE Consultants - Wireless Consultants Please contact me offlist if you're interested or you know someone who might be... cheers rick

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[jobs] IP Service Delivery Engineers
by Nicolas FISCHBACH 11 Jul '07

11 Jul '07

Hi, COLT is looking for two IP Service Delivery engineers whose main role is to plan and implement IP and VPN services on the COLT IP/MPLS network. Main requirements (summary): - good Cisco technology and routing+switching know-how (BGP, OSPF, IS-IS, MPLS, etc). One position requires CCNP certification, for the second one a CCNA/CCNP level is a plus - basics in telco/transport protocols (SDH, PDH, ATM/FR, Ethernet, etc) - a technical experience of at least 3 to 5 years at a telco/SP/large IT company (i.e. good understanding of Internet protocols and administrative procedures with RIPE and NICs) - UNIX/*BSD/Linux knowledge is a plus - fluent in German and English (French is a plus) - able to work in a fast paced environment The position is in our Zurich office. Please contact <selina dot zogg at colt dot net> if interested. Nico. -- Nicolas FISCHBACH Senior Manager - Network Engineering/Security - COLT Telecom e:(nico@securite.org) w:<http://www.securite.org/nico/>

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Please Help Stop => remember swinog 14 - project DNS Blockade
by Scott Weeks 11 Jul '07

11 Jul '07

Help! I've received ~10 of these so far! scott --- lists.nik(a)nts.ch wrote: From: Nik Hug <lists.nik(a)nts.ch> To: swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] remember swinog 14 - project DNS Blockade Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 01:17:28 +0200 Good Morning For me it was always just a question of time until they try to use (or abuse) "the list" to block "other" unwanted "content" (please note the double quote) http://thepiratebay.org/blog I don't care about a torrent tracker - but I care now even more about free speech and the risks such "tools" bring with them. Especially if they are operating without proper legal an democratic legitimation - compiled by some policemen sharing information only with services from other "free" nations ... let's bet how long it will take untill we have a similiar case here in Switzerland? Madame la juge where are you? Nik _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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Zattoo is hiring a Sysadmin
by Fredy Kuenzler 11 Jul '07

11 Jul '07

Zattoo is hiring a Sysadmin, to work in my team in Zuerich-Oerlikon: http://zattoo.com/jobs_biz Regards, Fredy

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remember swinog 14 - project DNS Blockade
by Nik Hug 11 Jul '07

11 Jul '07

Good Morning For me it was always just a question of time until they try to use (or abuse) "the list" to block "other" unwanted "content" (please note the double quote) http://thepiratebay.org/blog I don't care about a torrent tracker - but I care now even more about free speech and the risks such "tools" bring with them. Especially if they are operating without proper legal an democratic legitimation - compiled by some policemen sharing information only with services from other "free" nations ... let's bet how long it will take untill we have a similiar case here in Switzerland? Madame la juge where are you? Nik

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Test your Browser
by Martin Ebnoether 07 Jul '07

07 Jul '07

Hi all. Something for the weekend and for people with powerful hardware: http://www.semmel.ch/bildli/mario.html No, it's not a bitmap, it's pure html. CU, Venty -- Hey! I don't wanna go to work today! Wanna stay home and play on my videogame! Oh! Think how cool this could be, to go on a killing spree and fight for virtual fame!

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Re: AW: AW: [swinog] Route of the day
by Scott Weeks 07 Jul '07

07 Jul '07

: /me also wonders when "ISP's" start to drop those : silly ICMP filters which are really far from helpful : when trying to debug issues. Use tcptraceroute instead. scott --- robert(a)guentensperger.org wrote: From: <robert(a)guentensperger.org> To: <swinog(a)swinog.ch> Subject: AW: AW: [swinog] Route of the day Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 17:04:35 +0200 Jeroen I still don't see the problem. Where and when can you have such a round-trip for free? Go at the "Zuerifaescht" and you will have to pay quite a lot for a much shorter ride. ;-)) PS: As Stanislav wrote, it's still below 30 hops. Happy weekend, Günti -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftrag von Jeroen Massar Gesendet: Freitag, 6. Juli 2007 16:58 An: swinog(a)swinog.ch Betreff: Re: AW: [swinog] Route of the day internet(a)guentensperger.org wrote: > Where's the problem? > Your traffic reaches with Hop 3 already Zurich... Maybe the part where it takes another 600ms+ to actually reach the final destination in Switzerland again? :) > 22 i79zhb-005-pos4-0.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.159.5) 654.770 ms * > i00nye-005-pos5-2.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.159.9) 657.152 ms > 23 * * * > 24 tge3-3.bwrt1inb.bluewin.ch (195.186.0.113) 661.318 ms * * > 25 * * * > 26 * * * Instead of the 8ms to reach that same host from the other trace. /me also wonders when "ISP's" start to drop those silly ICMP filters which are really far from helpful when trying to debug issues. Greets, Jeroen _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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Anthony Drozdek is out of the office
by Anthony Drozdek 05 Jul '07

05 Jul '07

I will be out of the office starting 04.07.2007 and will not return until 23.07.2007. I will reply to your message when I return.

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