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Internet Society Delegation to Attend World Conference on International Telecommunications in Dubai, 3-14 December 2012
by Jeroen Massar 30 Nov '12

30 Nov '12

On the subject of that ITU thing... -------- Original Message -------- Internet Society Delegation to Attend World Conference on International Telecommunications in Dubai, 3-14 December 2012 More than 50 members of the Internet Society global community will participate [Washington, D.C. and Geneva, Switzerland – 30 November 2012] – An Internet Society delegation will attend the World Conference on International Telecommunications (WCIT) in Dubai, 3-14 December 2012. WCIT is a global treaty conference hosted by the International Telecommunication Union (ITU) where 193 ITU Member States come together to discuss and modify the International Telecommunications Regulations (ITRs). Approximately 50 members of the Internet Society global community will attend the meetings. As a Sector Member of the ITU Telecommunication Standards and Telecommunication Development Sectors, the Internet Society submitted a statement to the ITU as part of the WCIT public consultation. The statement can be found here: http://www.internetsociety.org/doc/WCITSubmissionOctober2012. The Internet Society remains hopeful that the ITU Member State delegations to the WCIT will agree to a treaty that enhances rather than restricts international telecommunications. The Internet Society and its Board of Trustees believe that any revisions to the ITRs should: * Reinforce Member States’ commitment to open, transparent, and inclusive policy-making processes; * Enshrine a commitment to open, voluntary international standards; * Enable continued innovation; * Emphasize policy approaches such as competition, liberalization, and transparency; * Be based on thorough technical and socio-economic analysis; and * Retain the high-level nature of the ITRs. The Internet Society delegation looks forward to having opportunities to interact with Member State delegations during the course of the Conference and to a successful outcome of the WCIT. For more information on WCIT, visit http://internetsociety.org/wcit. http://www.internetsociety.org/news/internet-society-delegation-attend-worl…

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(secret) ITU conference in Dubai: Swiss Delegation?
by Fredy Kuenzler 29 Nov '12

29 Nov '12

Does anyone know the Swiss delegate of the upcoming ITU conference in Dubai? It would be appropriate if the delegate of our democratic country actually has a known face and we all know how he/she is going to vote. The topics in this conference are a real threat to the Internet we know and love (refer to the SwiNOG #25 slides of Arnold). If you are not familiar yet with the topic, watch (and share) this website and video: https://www.whatistheitu.org/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzNQarkk95Q Regards, Fredy Künzler / Init7

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20.000 Cables under the Ocean
by Andre Oppermann 26 Nov '12

26 Nov '12

A very interesting report on ARTE about undersea cables. Visiting a cable repair ship, cable manufacturing, and so on... Available in German and French (43 Minutes): http://videos.arte.tv/de/videos/20-000-kabel-unter-dem-meer--7062114.html http://videos.arte.tv/fr/videos/20-000-cables-sous-les-mers--7062114.html Available for watching until Wednesday 17:00. -- Andre

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Re: [swinog] Yet another "need hardware now" - 100mbit SFP
by vwatson＠dancendrumarts.com 22 Nov '12

22 Nov '12

Silvan: Well, you said you had the all SFP switch with the 2 gig uplinks completing the ring of 5 switches and having only 24 Fast Ethernet ports with SFP capability available....how were you intending to use these ports ? Why do you say your cpe devices are not appropriate? Also are the ring of switches all the same make/model? What are the 24 100mbit ports on that last switch NOT doing? Please bring some more details of your plan if you would. Are all switches running same config and IOS verson and feature set? Regards, Vinnie -----Original Message----- From: Silvan Gebhardt [mailto:gebhardt@openfactory.ch] Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 02:37 PM To: vwatson(a)dancendrumarts.com Cc: swinog(a)swinog.ch, 'Frederic Gargula' Subject: Re: [swinog] Yet another "need hardware now" - 100mbit SFP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----Hash: SHA1so basically what I have is the all SFP Switch, with 24 Fibre Ports onFastEthernet and 2 Gigabit Ports. Gigabit is all taken since we have 5switches in a ring.Therefore I have some situation where my CPE is not appropriate and Iwanted to use SX or LX fibre there. 1000BASE TX do not work.BestSilvanAm 22.11.2012 13:08, schrieb vwatson(a)dancendrumarts.com:> Frederic:> > You are quite right, I stand corrected! The 3400g-2cs has only two > 10/100/1000 ports and the 3400g-12cs has 12 such ports. My main> point was that these switches support SFP on other than uplink> ports and the me 3400-24ts does not. Thanks for the correction.> Best Regards,> > Vinnie> > > -----Original Message----- *From:* Frederic Gargula> [mailto:frederic.gargula@ip-max.net] *Sent:* Thursday, November 22,> 2012 12:03 PM *To:* vwatson(a)dancendrumarts.com *Cc:* 'Silvan> Gebhardt', swinog(a)swinog.ch *Subject:* Re: [swinog] Yet another> "need hardware now" - 100mbit SFP> > Hello, ME 3400G-2CS has only 2 10/100/1000 ports. Best regards,> Frederic Gargula IP-Max On Nov 22, 2012, at 11:58 AM,> vwatson(a)dancendrumarts.com wrote: > Hi Silvan: > > Hope you are> doing well. It looks like there is only one model of these switches> that supports SFP on the 100mbit ports. That model is ME 3400-24FS.> It supports SFP on the 100mbit ports and on the 2 gbit uplink> ports. > > The other switch from this platform that has only> 10/100mbit ports (ME 3400-24TS) only supports SFP on the 2 gigabit> uplink ports. > > The remainder of the switches in this series:>>> ME 3400G-12CS > ME 3400G-2CS > > Both have 24 10/100/1000 Dual> purpose ports that support SFP and RJ45. I hope this helps. Best > Regards, > > Vinniw Watson > > > -----Original Message----- >> From: Silvan Gebhardt [mailto:gebhardt@openfactory.ch] > Sent:> Thursday, November 22, 2012 10:54 AM > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch >> Subject: [swinog] Yet another "need hardware now" - 100mbit SFP > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Folks, I have an> ME3400. I need SFP that work on the 100mbit ports, I need 1x LX 2x> SX OR: 3x 100mbit Copper please note, the fastethernet ports on> this switch do not accept the 100BASE-SX or LX from cisco at all.> anyone that can help me out with SFP that work in that cisco switch> please contact me offlist with a good offer. Best Silvan -----BEGIN> PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment:> Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ > iEYEARECAAYFAlCt9msACgkQC82WwYR1u2qv/ACgm/SF7Q5hyfEDPlnlqybLbhVo > x0sAn1tVIo2VXa0HZyYlKbNo/zxv0l3J =zFfO -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----> > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing> list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux)Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/iEYEARECAAYFAlCuKqwACgkQC82WwYR1u2ockwCfbeUrmdfFo6w… PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [swinog] Yet another"needhardwarenow"- 100mbit SFP
by vwatson＠dancendrumarts.com 22 Nov '12

22 Nov '12

Frederic: You are quite right, I stand corrected! The 3400g-2cs has only two 10/100/1000 ports and the 3400g-12cs has 12 such ports. My main point was that these switches support SFP on other than uplink ports and the me 3400-24ts does not. Thanks for the correction. Best Regards, Vinnie -----Original Message----- From: Frederic Gargula [mailto:frederic.gargula@ip-max.net] Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 12:03 PM To: vwatson(a)dancendrumarts.com Cc: 'Silvan Gebhardt', swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] Yet another "need hardware now" - 100mbit SFP Hello,ME 3400G-2CS has only 2 10/100/1000 ports.Best regards,Frederic GargulaIP-MaxOn Nov 22, 2012, at 11:58 AM, vwatson(a)dancendrumarts.com wrote:> Hi Silvan:> > Hope you are doing well. It looks like there is only one model of these switches that supports SFP on the 100mbit ports. That model is ME 3400-24FS. It supports SFP on the 100mbit ports and on the 2 gbit uplink ports. > > The other switch from this platform that has only 10/100mbit ports (ME 3400-24TS) only supports SFP on the 2 gigabit uplink ports.> > The remainder of the switches in this series:> > ME 3400G-12CS> ME 3400G-2CS> > Both have 24 10/100/1000 Dual purpose ports that support SFP and RJ45. I hope this helps. Best Regards,> > Vinniw Watson> > > -----Original Message-----> From: Silvan Gebhardt [mailto:gebhardt@openfactory.ch]> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 10:54 AM> To: swinog(a)swinog.ch> Subject: [swinog] Yet another "need hardware now" - 100mbit SFP> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Folks, I have an ME3400. I need SFP that work on the 100mbit ports, I need 1x LX 2x SX OR: 3x 100mbit Copper please note, the fastethernet ports on this switch do not accept the 100BASE-SX or LX from cisco at all. anyone that can help me out with SFP that work in that cisco switch please contact me offlist with a good offer. Best Silvan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlCt9msACgkQC82WwYR1u2qv/ACgm/SF7Q5hyfEDPlnlqybLbhVo x0sAn1tVIo2VXa0HZyYlKbNo/zxv0l3J =zFfO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________> swinog mailing list> swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch> http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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Re: [swinog] Yet another "need hardware now" - 100mbit SFP
by Silvan M. Gebhardt 22 Nov '12

22 Nov '12

We use the fully sfp model. The giga ports are taken with sfp cables for uplink. We run 100bas bx on the fa ports. But I have some special cases and I don't want regular cpe here. Frederic Gargula <frederic.gargula(a)ip-max.net> schrieb: >Hello, > >ME 3400G-2CS has only 2 10/100/1000 ports. > >Best regards, > >Frederic Gargula >IP-Max > > >On Nov 22, 2012, at 11:58 AM, vwatson(a)dancendrumarts.com wrote: > >> Hi Silvan: >> >> Hope you are doing well. It looks like there is only one model of >these switches that supports SFP on the 100mbit ports. That model is ME >3400-24FS. It supports SFP on the 100mbit ports and on the 2 gbit >uplink ports. >> >> The other switch from this platform that has only 10/100mbit ports >(ME 3400-24TS) only supports SFP on the 2 gigabit uplink ports. >> >> The remainder of the switches in this series: >> >> ME 3400G-12CS >> ME 3400G-2CS >> >> Both have 24 10/100/1000 Dual purpose ports that support SFP and >RJ45. I hope this helps. Best Regards, >> >> Vinniw Watson >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Silvan Gebhardt [mailto:gebhardt@openfactory.ch] >> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 10:54 AM >> To: swinog(a)swinog.ch >> Subject: [swinog] Yet another "need hardware now" - 100mbit SFP >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Folks, I have an >ME3400. I need SFP that work on the 100mbit ports, I need 1x LX 2x SX >OR: 3x 100mbit Copper please note, the fastethernet ports on this >switch do not accept the 100BASE-SX or LX from cisco at all. anyone >that can help me out with SFP that work in that cisco switch please >contact me offlist with a good offer. Best Silvan -----BEGIN PGP >SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG >with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ >iEYEARECAAYFAlCt9msACgkQC82WwYR1u2qv/ACgm/SF7Q5hyfEDPlnlqybLbhVo >x0sAn1tVIo2VXa0HZyYlKbNo/zxv0l3J =zFfO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> _______________________________________________ >> swinog mailing list >> swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch >> http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet.

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Re: [swinog] Yet another "need hardware now" - 100mbit SFP
by vwatson＠dancendrumarts.com 22 Nov '12

22 Nov '12

Hi Silvan: Hope you are doing well. It looks like there is only one model of these switches that supports SFP on the 100mbit ports. That model is ME 3400-24FS. It supports SFP on the 100mbit ports and on the 2 gbit uplink ports. The other switch from this platform that has only 10/100mbit ports (ME 3400-24TS) only supports SFP on the 2 gigabit uplink ports. The remainder of the switches in this series: ME 3400G-12CS ME 3400G-2CS Both have 24 10/100/1000 Dual purpose ports that support SFP and RJ45. I hope this helps. Best Regards, Vinniw Watson -----Original Message----- From: Silvan Gebhardt [mailto:gebhardt@openfactory.ch] Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 10:54 AM To: swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] Yet another "need hardware now" - 100mbit SFP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----Hash: SHA1Hi Folks,I have an ME3400.I need SFP that work on the 100mbit ports,I need1x LX2x SXOR:3x 100mbit Copperplease note, the fastethernet ports on this switch do not accept the100BASE-SX or LX from cisco at all.anyone that can help me out with SFP that work in that cisco switchplease contact me offlist with a good offer.BestSilvan-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux)Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/iEYEARECAAYFAlCt9msACgkQC82WwYR1u2qv/ACgm/SF7Q5hyfE… PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Yet another "need hardware now" - 100mbit SFP
by Silvan Gebhardt 22 Nov '12

22 Nov '12

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Folks, I have an ME3400. I need SFP that work on the 100mbit ports, I need 1x LX 2x SX OR: 3x 100mbit Copper please note, the fastethernet ports on this switch do not accept the 100BASE-SX or LX from cisco at all. anyone that can help me out with SFP that work in that cisco switch please contact me offlist with a good offer. Best Silvan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlCt9msACgkQC82WwYR1u2qv/ACgm/SF7Q5hyfEDPlnlqybLbhVo x0sAn1tVIo2VXa0HZyYlKbNo/zxv0l3J =zFfO -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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CfP - Survey on network attack detection and mitigation
by Sebastian Abt 22 Nov '12

22 Nov '12

Dear SwiNOG, I'd like to draw your attention to a survey we're conducting in context of several research projects: +----------------------- Call for Participation -----------------------+ | Survey on network attack detection and mitigation | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | opened from 14.11.12 - 04.12.12 | +--------------> http://www.dasec.h-da.de/survey/netsec <--------------+ Network-based attacks pose a strong threat to the Internet landscape and academia is working towards different approaches on attack detection and mitigation. Yet, a clear understanding of possibilities and issues in commercial networks is missing. Hence, this survey aims at gaining insight in real-world processes, structures and capabilities of IT companies and the computer networks they run. This survey is conducted in context of different publicly funded research projects of the da/sec Biometrics and Internet Security research group [1], as well as work done in the combined eco e.V. and DE-CIX competence group security. Results of this survey shall frame future research and community activities in the area of Internet security. The survey targets at companies of all size and colour running an own computer network. Questions within this survey address some organizational aspects, as well as processes, techniques and tools you may have employed in order to perform network attack detection and mitigation. Filling the survey should not last longer than 5 - 10 minutes. Thus, this survey can ideally be answered during a short and relaxing coffee/tea break ;-) Thank you all for your help to advance Internet security research! [1] http://www.dasec.h-da.de/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ It would be nice if you would support our work by participating in this survey. If you may have any particular questions regarding this survey or our work, please do not hesitate to contact me off-list. Thanks and best regards sebastian -- Sebastian Abt, M.Sc. - Doctoral Researcher Hochschule Darmstadt - Faculty of Computer Science Center for Advanced Security Research Darmstadt (CASED) da/sec - Biometrics and Internet Security Research Group Email: sebastian.abt(a)h-da.de - Phone: 0049.6151.16-8416

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look for Cisco Catalyst Switch
by ZUGERNET NOC 16 Nov '12

16 Nov '12

Hello everybody, we looking for 2 - 9 (used) Cisco WS-C2960G-24TC-L Catalyst Switch. please contact me offlist with an offer. Best regards Christoph

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