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Re: [swinog] mirror.switch.ch to be closed down
by Andres Aeschlimann 28 Aug '18

28 Aug '18

Hello all, Let me give you some more information about the decision of SWITCH to close down the well known SWITCHmirror service. In about 1990, the newly born Internet was such a success, that soon after, lines were completely overloaded, and it became literally impossible to download anything from sites across the Atlantic, at least during local office hours or in the evening. This also became a major problem for administrators at local Universities who had to install or patch their servers, as their installation routines took ages to complete, or even ran into timeouts. This being a common problem of the Universities, it soon became clear that instead of solving it at each University individually, it made much more sense to let SWITCH do that once and for all of them. So SWITCHmirror was born. And it was used. Heavily. Such that the SWITCHmirror infrastructure became among the most performant - and the most expensive - for about two decades. It was so performant that it could even be used to test network speed. Network engineers out there on the edge of the SWITCH network knew the sustained throughput of the SWITCHmirror by heart, and so they could just measure the download rate of some large file in order to tell whether their local line actually had the speed it was planned for. The congestion across the Atlantic didn’t actually last for too long. Soon after, new lines with double throughput and more were put in place. However, this didn’t come at no cost, and so, SWITCH also had to charge separately for overseas volumes, which again made the SWITCHmirror attractive as it generated only local traffic. Later on, this separate charge could again be dropped, and so the SWITCHmirror lost, in principle, its raison d’être. However, in the meantime, the SWITCHmirror was well known, not only at the Universities but even more in Switzerland and in Europe, as the download statistics are showing today: About half of the monthly 150-200TB are going to foreign countries, the other half to destinations within Switzerland, and only 2-5% to the Swiss Universities. SWITCH is committed to operate solutions that empower users primarily in the academic world. Given the above statistics, and seeing that the hardware was reaching its eol, SWITCH has done a survey among the responsible people at the Universities, which clearly showed that as of today, having such a mirror clearly isn’t a requirement for them any more. SWITCH has therefore decided to decommission this service, in favour of many others that are about to be put in place. The schedule for this decommissioning is documented on http://mirror.switch.ch/ . So, we are hoping that you can follow our reasons for turning off SWITCHmirror and thank you for your understanding. Andres Aeschlimann -- SWITCH Andres Aeschlimann, service responsible for SWITCHmirror Werdstrasse 2, P.O. Box, 8021 Zurich, Switzerland phone +41 44 268 15 15, direct +41 44 268 15 75 andres.aeschlimann(a)switch.ch <mailto:andres.aeschlimann@switch.ch>, http://www.switch.ch <http://www.switch.ch/> Working for a better digital world

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mirror.switch.ch to be closed down
by Fredy Kuenzler 23 Aug '18

23 Aug '18

SWITCH announced that they plan to close down mirror.switch.ch. See announcement http://mirror.switch.ch/ I personally think this is very sad. In the name of the community I would like to thank SWITCH for their support over all these years. However I would like to start the discussion how we can keep mirror.switch.ch alive as a community effort. Can the decision makers at SWITCH please explain the preconditions? Funding for new hardware? Throw in some bandwidth? Colocation? Server management? Please discuss. -- Fredy Kuenzler Init7

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Swinog-BE167 - Beer Event 167 @ Kings Cave / ZH
by Viktor Steinmann 23 Aug '18

23 Aug '18

Dear SwiNOGers, After the bad news about the end of the SWITCH mirror, everyone needs some good news. Let's have some beer and food. And because of its central (pun intended) location, we're again descending into the cave. The King's Cave. Details for the next event: ----------------------------------------------- Event: Swinog-BE167 - Beer Event 167 When? Monday, 3rd September 2018 18:30 Where? Kings Cave Central 1, 8001 Zürich http://central.ch/portfolio_page/kings-cave/ (GoogleMaps Link: http://goo.gl/maps/H1ez7HeF6x72) Places available? 10 !! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are limited! !! ----------------------------------------------- Registration: Start: Thursday, 23rd August 2018 - 15:00 Stop: Friday, 31st August 2018 - 16:00 Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/ ----------------------------------------------- Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not. If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (078 602 95 18). Kind regards, Viktor (aka Stony)

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Important SwiNOG #34 Information (Dates, CFP, ...)
by Steven Glogger 22 Aug '18

22 Aug '18

Dear SwiNOG supporter, We’re starting the planning for our next SwiNOG meeting. The 34th meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will be held in Berne on top of the Gurten on Thuesday October 30th 2018. Call for Paper!! This is the official Call for Paper email. Please use the CFP Form to submit your presentation: https://www.swinog.ch/cfp/ Important Dates for SwiNOG#34 31.07.2018 Save the Date! 31.07.2018 Call for Papers 20.08.2018 Registration opens 05.10.2018 Call for Papers closing 10.10.2018 Final publication of Agenda 22.10.2018 Registration closes 25.10.2018 Deadline for submitting all slides 30.10.2018 Meeting day Topics for Presentations/Talks The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, although due to time constraints we would prefer the length of the presentations to be between 5 to 45 minutes. Here is a non-exhaustive list of typical SwiNOG meeting topics: - Security - DDOS Mitigation - AntiSpam - IPv6 - Open Source tools - International view of the internet (incidents, outages, measurements) - Routing - Server applications (DNS, Web, etc.) - Legal issues (B‹PF, etc.) - Telecommunication politics (Net Neutrality, Incumbent monopoly, etc.) -> PLEASE feel free to talk to us about any kind of topic and collaboration!!! You can always start a discussion on the list - I'm sure people join in. Language of Slides and Talks The whole day will be held in English, therefore we kindly ask you to produce your presentation in English. Submission Guidelines All submissions must have a strong technical bias and must not be solely promotional for your employer. Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whose sizes may vary considerably. To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you use the newly CFP form: https://www.swinog.ch/cfp/ If you have any questions please get in contact with us by sending an email to <swinog-core at swinog.ch <http://swinog.ch/>>: We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel would be valuable to the SwiNOG community. Please be aware that your presentation will be published on the SwiNOG website after the event. We can publish modified slides if requested - it might be that some confidential data will be presented by you which are not intended for publication on the internet. Greetings, Steven Glogger SwiNOG Core Team General Information (SwiNOG Community) The Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) is an informal group of people who are concerned with engineering and operation of the Swiss Internet. SwiNOG exists to enhance the quality of Internet services available in Switzerland. It does this by fostering the free exchange of technical ideas and information between different companies and organisations. SwiNOG is a community for professionals who are operating, designing or researching the Internet. It provides a technical forum where those working on, with and for the Internet can come together to solve problems with every aspect of their (net)work. The meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange of information among network operators, engineers, researchers and other professionals close to the network community. More information about SwiNOG can be found at https://www.swinog.ch, Facebook, Xing, Information about the meeting will be published at https://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog34 General Information (SwiNOG Organisation) The SwiNOG Organisation Association is a non-profit association under article 60 and further of the swiss civil law. It manages the SwiNOG community resources (domain, web, mailing-lists, etc..) and organises SwiNOG meetings. Contact: SwiNOG Organisation 8000 Zurich Switzerland ps: for those who read the whole mail: did you noticed something?

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Any tech from IncaMail Swiss Post on this list?
by Benoit Panizzon 21 Aug '18

21 Aug '18

Hi List I wonder if a tech from IncaMail Swiss Post (sender: swisspost(a)im.post.ch) source: gw1.incamail.com [194.41.147.13] is on this list and could contact me off-list to check on something? I contacted their abuse desk and support, regarding excessive bounce generation, probably due to some malfunction or issues when communicating with a support request ticket system, but no reaction yet. Mit freundlichen Grüssen -Benoît Panizzon- -- I m p r o W a r e A G - Leiter Commerce Kunden ______________________________________________________ Zurlindenstrasse 29 Tel +41 61 826 93 00 CH-4133 Pratteln Fax +41 61 826 93 01 Schweiz Web http://www.imp.ch ______________________________________________________

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IANA AS Numbers Registry Update
by Selina Harrington 21 Aug '18

21 Aug '18

Hi, The IANA AS Numbers registry has been updated to reflect the allocation of the following blocks to the RIPE NCC: 207260-208283 Assigned by RIPE NCC 2018-08-20 208284-209307 Assigned by RIPE NCC 2018-08-20 209308-210331 Assigned by RIPE NCC 2018-08-20 You can find the registry at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/as-numbers/ The allocation was made in accordance with the Policy for Allocation of ASN Blocks to Regional Internet Registries: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/global-policy-asn-blocks-2010-09-21-en Best Regards, -- Selina Harrington Lead IANA Services Specialist

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Invitation for the 2nd Swiss Web Security Day, October 18, Bern Well 7
by Michael Hausding 17 Aug '18

17 Aug '18

Dear SwiNOG list After a successful first Swiss Web Security Day last year, SWITCH, SISA and Swico want to invite you to the second Swiss Web Security Day on October 18 at Well 7 in Bern. The event is targeted at hosters, registrars, ISPs, and web companies. Talks will be given in English, German and French We have several top speakers from the Internet community, here is a preliminary agenda: Thursday October 18, 2018 09:30 Registration and Coffee 10:00 Welcome: Urs Eppenberger, SWITCH - Peter Fischer, SISA - Jean-Marc Hensch, Swico 10:15 Keynote: Improving Security of complex ecosystems - Ivan Ristic, hardenize.com 11:00 Coffee Break 11:15 Automating DNSSEC Signing - René Luria, Infomaniak 11:45 Email and Brand security - a new way forward - Andy Bates, Global Cyber Security Alliance 12:15 Domain Abuse Activity Reporting project (DAAR) and other ICANN developments in the anti-abuse arena - Carlos Alvarez , ICANN 12:45-14:00 Lunch 14:00 “Turnschuhshop“-Prävention durch die Polizei - Christoph Gerber, Kapo Zürich, Fachstelle Cybercrime 14:30 Drupal Security - Miro Dietiker, MD Systems 15:00 Coffee Break 15:15 Automating DNSSEC Trust Delegation with CDS - Oli Schacher, SWITCH 15:45 Cryptomining in the .ch Zone, Antoine Neuenschwander, SWITCH 16:15 Farewell 16:30 Apéro 17:00 End Space is limited, you can register here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/swiss-web-security-day-2018-tickets-47378497361 Hope to see you in Bern! Michael ------------------------------------ Michael Hausding, Competence Lead DNS & Domain Abuse SWITCH-CERT Werdstrasse 2, P.O. Box, 8021 Zurich, Switzerland phone +41 44 268 15 77, incident phone +41 44 268 15 40 michael.hausding(a)switch.ch http://securityblog.switch.ch

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strange DNS issues with swinog blacklists
by Benoit Panizzon 14 Aug '18

14 Aug '18

Hi Team We have reports of troubles accessing the swinog blacklists. Did SWINOG change Nameservers lately? http://www.zonecut.net/dns/?domain=dnsrbl.swinog.ch still points to switch and saitis and have weird glue record issues. whois show cyon operating the swinog.ch DNS Servers and there the glue records look right. Mit freundlichen Grüssen -Benoît Panizzon- -- I m p r o W a r e A G - Leiter Commerce Kunden ______________________________________________________ Zurlindenstrasse 29 Tel +41 61 826 93 00 CH-4133 Pratteln Fax +41 61 826 93 01 Schweiz Web http://www.imp.ch ______________________________________________________

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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 163, Issue 2 wifi on Battery
by Martin Fischer 10 Aug '18

10 Aug '18

1.) Check with https://www.ict-plus.ch They have a lot experiences with Long reach wifi... 2.) why not just a standard USV? Solar or Wind buffered... or is a normal power supply only sometimes available? Fründlechi Grüess Martin Fischer > Am 09.08.2018 um 11:08 schrieb swinog-request(a)lists.swinog.ch: > > Send swinog mailing list submissions to > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > swinog-request(a)lists.swinog.ch > > You can reach the person managing the list at > swinog-owner(a)lists.swinog.ch > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of swinog digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Battery powered wifi link (20km, multihop) (Nico Schottelius) > 2. Re: Battery powered wifi link (20km, multihop) (Andreas Fink) > 3. Re: Battery powered wifi link (20km, multihop) (Matthias Cramer) > 4. Huge Packetloss towards switch mirrors? (Benoit Panizzon) > 5. Re: Huge Packetloss towards switch mirrors? (Florian Bruhin) > 6. Re: Huge Packetloss towards switch mirrors? (Benoit Panizzon) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2018 15:43:54 +0200 > From: Nico Schottelius <nico.schottelius(a)ungleich.ch> > To: swinog <swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch> > Subject: [swinog] Battery powered wifi link (20km, multihop) > Message-ID: <87bmadj7mt.fsf(a)line.ungleich.ch> > Content-Type: text/plain > > > Hey Swinog, > > does anyone have experiences with long distance (~20km) wifi powered > by battery? > > With have the situation that we basically want to connect Schwanden to > Linthal by wifi for at least 12 hours. > > The idea is to go via several hops, some of them not having any power > resource. > > So my questions to the list are: > > - What kind of equipment have you used for similar cases or can you recommend? > - Are there any battery recommendations? > - Other creative ideas on how to get a direct link with >= 100 Mbit/s > connectivity? > > Best, > > Nico > > > > > -- > Your Swiss, Open Source and IPv6 Virtual Machine. Now on www.datacenterlight.ch. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 15:58:41 +0200 > From: Andreas Fink <afink(a)list.fink.org> > To: Nico Schottelius <nico.schottelius(a)ungleich.ch> > Cc: swinog <swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch> > Subject: Re: [swinog] Battery powered wifi link (20km, multihop) > Message-ID: <1593479F-DF99-4D13-BA96-2D14E7E29136(a)list.fink.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > >> On 8 Aug 2018, at 15:43, Nico Schottelius <nico.schottelius(a)ungleich.ch> wrote: >> >> >> Hey Swinog, >> >> does anyone have experiences with long distance (~20km) wifi powered >> by battery? >> >> With have the situation that we basically want to connect Schwanden to >> Linthal by wifi for at least 12 hours. >> >> The idea is to go via several hops, some of them not having any power >> resource. >> >> So my questions to the list are: >> >> - What kind of equipment have you used for similar cases or can you recommend? >> - Are there any battery recommendations? >> - Other creative ideas on how to get a direct link with >= 100 Mbit/s >> connectivity? >> > > > Given big enough dishes and line of sight, this is achieveable. We had 40km links in rural areas of Iceland working. Its all a question of terrain, interfearance and right equipment. > As far as power goes, a solar system can help to keep it operational. > >> Best, >> >> Nico >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Your Swiss, Open Source and IPv6 Virtual Machine. Now on www.datacenterlight.ch. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> swinog mailing list >> swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch >> http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 16:33:52 +0200 > From: Matthias Cramer <matthias.cramer(a)iway.ch> > To: <swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch> > Subject: Re: [swinog] Battery powered wifi link (20km, multihop) > Message-ID: <d9b86b8c-af79-219a-0b19-867e78854be5(a)iway.ch> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hoi Nico > > Mit einem P?rchen Antennen wie diesen an jedem Hop ist das sicher machbar. > > https://mikrotik.com/product/RBLHG-5HPnD > > Als Baterien kannst du z.B. 100AH Autobateriene einsetzen, damit bekommst du ?ber 70h Betriebsdauer mit zwei Antennen... > > Du musst jedoch daf?r sorgen das du zwischen den Antennen freie Sicht hast, sonst wird das nicht wirklich funktionieren. > > Wir haben vor vielen Jahren mal einen WiFi Link zwischen Otelfingen und Regensdorf ohne zwischenhop gemacht (~8km), das hat > mehrere Jahr stabil funktioniert. War jedoch anderes Equipment. > > Gruss Matthias > > >> On 08/08/18 15:43, Nico Schottelius wrote: >> >> Hey Swinog, >> >> does anyone have experiences with long distance (~20km) wifi powered >> by battery? >> >> With have the situation that we basically want to connect Schwanden to >> Linthal by wifi for at least 12 hours. >> >> The idea is to go via several hops, some of them not having any power >> resource. >> >> So my questions to the list are: >> >> - What kind of equipment have you used for similar cases or can you recommend? >> - Are there any battery recommendations? >> - Other creative ideas on how to get a direct link with >= 100 Mbit/s >> connectivity? >> >> Best, >> >> Nico >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Your Swiss, Open Source and IPv6 Virtual Machine. Now on www.datacenterlight.ch. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> swinog mailing list >> swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch >> http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >> > > > -- > Matthias Cramer / mc322-ripe Senior Network & Security Engineer > iway AG Phone +41 43 500 1111 <sip:0435001111> > Badenerstrasse 569 Fax +41 44 271 3535 <sip:0442713535> > CH-8048 Z?rich http://www.iway.ch/ > GnuPG 1024D/2D208250 = DBC6 65B6 7083 1029 781E 3959 B62F DF1C 2D20 8250 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 10:50:18 +0200 > From: Benoit Panizzon <benoit.panizzon(a)imp.ch> > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Subject: [swinog] Huge Packetloss towards switch mirrors? > Message-ID: <20180809105018.481bbbe3(a)go.imp.ch> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi Community > > Anyone else experiencing high latency and packetloss towards > > ch.archive.ubuntu.com / mirror.switch.ch > > IPv4 via SwissIX. > IPv6 via HE. > > --- frisal.switch.ch ping statistics --- > 99 packets transmitted, 34 received, 65% packet loss, time 99279ms > rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 425.674/601.445/705.015/62.817 ms > > --- ch.archive.ubuntu.com ping statistics --- > 21 packets transmitted, 7 received, 66% packet loss, time 20262ms > rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 531.911/594.194/645.790/43.318 ms > > Mit freundlichen Gr?ssen > > -Beno?t Panizzon- > -- > I m p r o W a r e A G - Leiter Commerce Kunden > ______________________________________________________ > > Zurlindenstrasse 29 Tel +41 61 826 93 00 > CH-4133 Pratteln Fax +41 61 826 93 01 > Schweiz Web http://www.imp.ch > ______________________________________________________ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 11:03:11 +0200 > From: Florian Bruhin <me(a)the-compiler.org> > To: Benoit Panizzon <benoit.panizzon(a)imp.ch> > Cc: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Subject: Re: [swinog] Huge Packetloss towards switch mirrors? > Message-ID: <20180809090311.6lozw7uptirpmqk2(a)hooch.localdomain> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 10:50:18AM +0200, Benoit Panizzon wrote: >> Anyone else experiencing high latency and packetloss towards >> >> ch.archive.ubuntu.com / mirror.switch.ch > > Switch seems to be having trouble: > https://www.switch.ch/network/operations/trouble-tickets/?action=show&id=13… > > Florian > > -- > https://www.qutebrowser.org | me(a)the-compiler.org (Mail/XMPP) > GPG: 916E B0C8 FD55 A072 | https://the-compiler.org/pubkey.asc > I love long mails! | https://email.is-not-s.ms/ >

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Bluewin.ch SPF record
by Lukas Knauer 09 Aug '18

09 Aug '18

Hello List Anyone from Bluewin reading? We see a lot of seemingly legitimate traffic with envelope sender address in the domain bluewin.ch coming from hosts belonging to Bluewin (reverse DNS record is in domain bluewin.ch). However, these IP addresses are not listed in Bluewin's SPF record. As a result SPF check for sender domain bluewin.ch is not feasible. Is there any particular reason why Bluewin does not list sending servers in the following IP ranges in their SPF record? 195.186.7.0/24 195.186.101.0/24 195.186.121.0/24 195.186.122.0/24 195.186.228.0/24 195.186.123.0/24 (partially listed in SPF record) 195.186.136.0/24 (partially listed in SPF record) (this list is probably not complete...) Best regards Lukas

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