Hello Sunrise,

many thanks for your (anonymous) feedback.

Ok, I have not seen this other discussion - and simply I do NOT want to start this "relegious" discussion about it.

For me personally it is "bad behaviour" to use RFC1918 in internet public based services / routes.

For sure others CAN do, because it is not strictly forbidden.

This is for me also a general "problem" according RFC's:
what is "MUST" and what is "SHOULD"....

So I stop it here.
</Offtopic>

Back to my case:

Here see the traces which use RFC1918 in your backbone.
So you assign it ! Or may send me an introduction why I am wrong.

May I missed something.

Many thanks in advance,

Best Regards

Stephan

remark:

192.168.12.254 is your CPE / Fritzbox

/root: traceroute local.ch
traceroute to local.ch (185.101.119.163), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 192.168.12.254 (192.168.12.254) 0.826 ms 0.650 ms 0.559 ms
2 10.136.71.241 (10.136.71.241) 18.020 ms 18.421 ms 18.051 ms
3 172.16.19.146 (172.16.19.146) 22.824 ms 22.594 ms 20.392 ms
4 172.16.19.145 (172.16.19.145) 20.397 ms 23.046 ms 22.561 ms
5 194.230.108.185 (194.230.108.185) 18.058 ms 19.911 ms 19.526 ms
6 * * *
7 * * *
8 oer02pe05.ge1-0-19.bb.sunrise.net (212.161.250.138) 20.847 ms
oer02pe05.ge1-0-0.bb.sunrise.net (212.161.250.134) 22.801 ms 22.368 ms
9 195.141.229.234 (195.141.229.234) 22.636 ms 22.517 ms 22.724 ms
10 * * *
11 * * *

(snip)

/root: traceroute -I local.ch
traceroute to local.ch (185.101.119.163), 64 hops max, 48 byte packets
1 192.168.12.254 (192.168.12.254) 0.682 ms 0.543 ms 0.506 ms
2 10.136.71.241 (10.136.71.241) 18.382 ms 20.533 ms 17.602 ms
3 172.16.19.146 (172.16.19.146) 22.372 ms 22.011 ms 22.478 ms
4 172.16.19.145 (172.16.19.145) 21.672 ms 21.664 ms 22.113 ms
5 194.230.108.185 (194.230.108.185) 19.564 ms 19.532 ms 19.533 ms
6 * * *
7 * * *
8 oer02pe05.ge1-0-19.bb.sunrise.net (212.161.250.138) 22.131 ms 22.230 ms 21.965 ms
9 195.141.229.234 (195.141.229.234) 21.793 ms 22.007 ms 21.611 ms
10 * * *
11 * * *

(snip)

>tracert local.ch
Routenverfolgung zu local.ch [185.101.119.163]
über maximal 30 Hops:
1    <1 ms    <1 ms     1 ms 192.168.12.254
2    18 ms    17 ms    18 ms 10.136.71.241
3    23 ms    22 ms    22 ms 172.16.19.146
4    23 ms    23 ms    22 ms 172.16.19.145
5    24 ms    20 ms    20 ms 194.230.108.185
6     *        *        *     Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
7     *        *        *     Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
8    87 ms    85 ms    83 ms oer02pe05.ge1-0-19.bb.sunrise.net [212.161.250.138]
9    87 ms    86 ms    79 ms 195.141.229.234
10     *        *        *     Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
11     *        *        *     Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
(snip)

Inbound:

(snip)
....

6 e1-19.c-r1.es34.nine.ch (5.148.160.143) 12.509 ms 11.148 ms 11.102 ms
7 194.230.36.32 (194.230.36.32) 1.271 ms 1.261 ms 1.214 ms
8 * * *
9 zur01are02.et-10-3-0.bb.sunrise.net (195.141.217.155) 1.355 ms 1.225 ms 1.088 ms
10 * * *
11 * * *
12 * * *
13 adsl-84-227-50-245.adslplus.ch (84.227.50.245) 22.971 ms 23.458 ms 23.962 ms

2016-08-16 13:44 GMT+02:00 peering <peering@sunrise.net>:

Hi
Based on the current post at the swinog mailing list and a previous one which discussed the topic in detail. In fact there is no obligation to not use private IP Addresses for internet based Services.
Therefore be aware, that the seen RFC1918 Addresses has not been assigned by sunrise.
Many Thanks for your understanding